Submitted by : simon at: 2003-10-26T21:31:49+00:00 (14 years ago)
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Some wikis like WikiWikiWeb add spaces to the WikiName in the HTML title and the HTML H1 of the page. e.g. the name WikiName would be written als "Wiki Name" in the title and in the first header on the page.

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I got this idea from BloggingDiscussion --PieterB

PieterB, 2002/12/25 09:54 GMT (via web):
Only for those pages who don't have a title, of course.

2002/12/27 21:45 GMT (via web):
I think WebSeitzWiki does this..

PieterB, 2002/12/30 12:30 GMT (via web):
Thanks for the tip: See also: WebSeitzWiki:ZwikiCustomizations. I've e-mailed BillSeitz asking the source code. I'll see if I can integrate it with the current Zwiki.

FlorianKonnertz, 2003/01/16 07:01 GMT (via web):
Just keep in mind: There are also many names which are written the right way and make no/less sense or are incorrect english when spaces are inserted.

PieterB, 2003/01/19 16:05 GMT (via web):
Florian, why not give those pages a title, and use exploding by default (for the title-tag, or both the title and heading) only.

-- PieterB (back from skiing holiday)

FlorianKonnertz, 2003/01/19 20:27 GMT (via web):
What means exploding? Inserting spaces or not? You mean we should use the WikiWord? in the title and id, and in the title tag and in heading the spaced word, do you? -- FloK

JohnGreenaway, 2003/01/19 23:03 GMT (via web):
I like exploding the words in headers. Oddly enough contributed a patch to do just that in JSPWiki? last year - http://www.ecyrd.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JohnGreenaway (during a brief dalliance with it). I'm actually coming round to the way of thinking of writing links in the body exploded too, just wrapping phrases with []. The whole WikiWords? thing can just make pages harder to read sometimes, especially for technical documentation.

SimonMichael, 2003/01/19 23:17 GMT (via web):
I think writing spaced names using [] (freeform names) works fine, and the issue here is really what to do with pages whose name is a non-spaced wiki name (typically, these have a wikiname id and blank title). For me the readability aspect is situation-dependent and the search indexing problem is more pressing. The least controversial solution there would seem to be: always put the exploded page id in that keywords meta tag that search engines look at. What do you think of that ?


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property change --simon, Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:33:41 -0700 reply
Category: general => formatting and rendering

done for 0.35 --SimonMichael, Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:40:08 -0700 reply
Status: open => closed

done for 0.35 -- Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:39:31 -0700 reply
Looks like it applies to not just the title tags, but the entire page. - DeanG

Notables -- Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:25:19 -0700 reply
ZWiki:RemoteWikiLinks -- local page not expanded

[PloneBookChapter01Test]?
Freeform treated as-is. ATestPage123? vs. [ATestPage123]? This may be a good override mechanism. :-)
DTML extractions
title, id, etc. Haven't experimented yet.

Freeforms Explode?? -- Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:05:50 -0700 reply
Hmm.. [PloneBookChapter01Test]? doesn't explode, but ZWiki does. I would prefer freeforms rendered exactly as typed, specifically for when using a wiki for coding projects. Examples: "AClassName?" "GoofyXMLElement?". (And perhaps some instances such as names: ZopeWiki:AndyMcKay .

Also, now that we have this nifty function, should we drop the ? new page qualifier and create simply hyperlink the potential page, noting it with a special CSS tag for render-style-fun? (With CSS, could folks with an attachment for the question mark continue to use the question mark?)

keyword implementation info? -- Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:45:41 -0800 reply
Simon's last comment above (2003/01/19 23:17 GMT), mentions the possibility of making title information fill keyword metadata. I am guessing that this got implemented...???

I am wondering if this is something that can be configured. In a site where zwiki is mainly for work documents, filling up the keywords data (for a Plone site) with the titles from wiki pages is not desirable. Any information on this is greatly appreciated.

needs investigation --simon, Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:58:44 -0800 reply
Severity: wishlist => normal Status: closed => open

ORG-420 -- Sat, 05 Mar 2005 06:28:22 -0800 reply