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This page created to preserve lost memories, bytes and cognitive bits. Move old AnnoyingQuote content, aside from the last few entries, to the bottom of this page when the former gets too big.


Wiki makes knowledge transfer go very fast. --me

WikiNature?
Like minimalist Japanese brushstroke drawings; you provide a few slashes of ink and other minds fill in the rest.

Pssssst.

The compiler runs
Like a swift-flowing river
I wait in silence.

Do not meddle in the affairs of zope, for it is subtle and quick to anger.

Someone's crying, lord

Someone's smiling, lord

Outside of a dog, a book is Man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.

Zwiki 0.3 is ready to rock. Thanks for all feedback; Tres Seaver & Alexandre Ratti enter the ZWiki hall of fame for their patches. --SM

The new page types may cause confusion - if you see a screwed-up page, someone may have inadvertently changed it's type. Work, ideas needed to restore WikiEssence?.

the effective programmer is keenly aware of the limited size of his own head --Dijkstra/WikiWikiWeb

Wherever your attention goes, you go.

I wonder. Do WikiNames get converted to links in the AnnoyingQuote ? If not, why not ?

the header and footer are not subject to wiki-processing.. it seemed less confusing that way. I think you could still get a wiki-ized quote with the right DTML though.

<dtml-let quotes="_.string.split(AnnoyingQuote.raw,\n\n)"><dtml-var "quotes[.whrandom.randint(1,.len(quotes)-1)]">

And why not a random selection ? The code's trivial to add to ZWikiHeader?

I know.. I just didn't like it as much, see AnnoyingQuoteDiscussion

catch and release Banana Slugs

how do you pronounce wiki?

happy Buy Nothing Day

Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Knowledge requires proof. Proof requires knowledge. Therefore we know nothing.

Why?

Woohoo! my domain has moved. This is joyful.com/zwiki

<strong>I used to be undecided, now I don't know!

[change]
You can run with me
fast as we can go
we're gonna ride on up to
Medicine Bow!

breathing and choosing in the jewelled world [*]

this is release 0.4-pre.. please bang on it and I'll release shortly ZWiki 0.4 "Valentine" released

See how life works??

I'm back, and this is ZWiki 0.5 "Simple" --SM

clean

whither do you roam?

Ack, Ack, Ack, Plbb, Plbb, Plbb.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

Will says no quote today

Pugh, Pugh, Barney, McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble & Grub!

work, work, work, work.. work, work, work...

You can lead a friend to water, but you can't pick your horse's nose.

You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.

A closed mouth gathers no foot.

debiaaaaaan, debiaaaaan, debiaaaaaaaan.. DEBIAAAN, debiaaan,

work, work, work, work.. work, work, work...

It's a wiki, wiki world.

Hey! Give you with some rest. Turn off the PC, grab a cup of tea, and listen a good CD of yours.

batter my voles

butter my vales

Trust in camels
but tie your God tight.
There is more to work than increasing its speed.
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Haulin grass and smokin ass

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like an orange.

zwiki 0.6.1 released

L'espoir est le dernier refuge des cons.

You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle.

From preference arises sorrow, from preference arises fear, but he who is freed from preference has no sorrow and certainly no fear. 212

Friends help friends move; Really good friends help move bodies.

The smoke clears, the fog burns off, and from the ground arises user interaction. Squeeky ZWiki

Hmm, ZWicki?... Is Hawaii any close to Manila ?

Ho ho ho.. emacs users, we are in business

"Having GNU Emacs is like having a dragon's cave of treasures." --Robert J. Chassell

A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
Mahatma Ghandi

Mr. Salt- "What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?" Willy Wonka- "Why? Having fun?"

"640k should be enough for everyone", Bill Gates

MakeMoneyFast!

"The only possible values [for quality]? are excellent and insanely excellent, depending on whether lives are at stake or not. Otherwise you don't enjoy your work, you don't work well, and the project goes down the drain." --Kent Beck, Extreme Programming Explained

"To imagine a language means to imagine a form of life". Ludwig Wittgenstein

"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a freshly-charged electric eel and chances are he won't bother you for anything ever again."

"To assume an above-average IQ for the average reader, simplifies writing."

"Zwiki is like a penis- once you start playing with it, it's hard to stop."

Remember, it is forbidden to live in a town
Which has no garden or greenery
--Kiddushin 4:12

Better to fart and feel the shame than to hold it in and feel the pain.

"There is no patent. Could you patent the sun ?"
--Jonas Salk when asked who would control the polio vaccine

"A little respect over here, pal, because i'm Constanza, the Lord of Idiots", Seinfeld

"My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four. Unless there are three other people." Orson Welles

Source code is like fertilizer. It stinks when you hoard it, but when you spread it around, things grow.

I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming, terrified, like his passengers.

...

Once I thought I was wrong. But I was mistaken.

''I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it by not dying !''
WoodyAllen?

Seen on the shirt of LAPD bomb squad "If you see me running, try to keep up"

The early bird gets the worm. The early worm gets eaten. {The early bird gets the early worm. -- fp)

I love deadlines... they make such a cool sound as they go whizzing by.

Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it.

  1. arcade smash hits in this special pack for your home micro!

I wish I had: dtml to generate random "FatBrain:nnnnnnnnnn" links

GO PHP4, GO!!!!!!

Listening to: William Orbit - Pieces In a Modern Style

Home of Simon's Secret Weapon

with this, with this, I give you a kiss

Slashdotted!
ShieldsUp temporarily, until I have more time.. --SM

ShieldsDown - we are open for business! Please edit with care.

No good, ShieldsUp again :( latest status will be on FrontPage

we experienced some vandalism problems after being slashdotted.

Zwikiweb is open for edits, excepting the front page.

ZWikiweb? is now accessible thru www.zwiki.org - best regards, tav

rename ZWikiWeb? -> zwiki.org ? Comment on ZWikiDotOrg?

dull computer stuff! More COMEDY JOKES!!

Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. --Cicero

ZWiki-0.7.0 release candidate is out, see FrontPage

A copier is a type of fax machine where you can only send faxes to yourself.

Boo!

Happy Halloween. MUhahahahaahaaahahahaha

"Tell me: have great tidings befallen since I walked the land ? Is the Shadow overthrown ? Have the Hidden People come forth ?"
"Nay," Tuor answered. "The Shadow lengthens, and the Hidden remain hid."

But at last, as with great labour they came to the very foot of the cliff, they found an opening, as it were the mouth of a tunnel worn in the hard rock by waters flowing from the heart of the mountains.

One Wiki to rule them all, One Wiki to find them, One Wiki to bring them all and on the Internet bind them.

Keep intelligence out of politics - Vote Bush / Cheney 2000

Seek truth; speak truth. Lies poison the soul.

Unselfish actions pay back better.

The ends do not justify the means. The means determine the ends.

It could be that the meaning of your life is to serve as a warning to others.

A deed is not well done if one suffers after doing it, if one bears the consequences sobbing and with tears streaming down one's face. 67. But a deed is well done if one does not suffer after doing it, if one experiences the consequences smiling and contented. 68.

Thank goodness it's Friday

MichelPelletier: I am ... barely not lazy enough to check stuff into branches, much less whole other repositories. ;)

When we program, we are always engaged in a struggle to truly see. If we see clearly - what the users want, need, and fear; what our co-workers want, need, and fear; what we ourselves want, need, and fear; and finally what the system wants and needs - we work well and truly. Our systems are simple. Our thoughts are simple. We work without stress, without fear, with joy and love for our task and ourselves. --KentBeck?

What is Irish and stays out all night? Patty O'Furniture

What is the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish funeral? One less drunk.

Happy New Year!

If you have to hate, hate gently.

"Hello, Image." --Albert Camus

aunt edna took the wrong exit off the information superhighway and landed in a microwave oven in Peoria.

Great Lover, n.: A man who can breathe through his ears.

Games on the shelf: Batalyx, P.O.D, The Sentinel

Games on the shelf: Full Throttle, Alleykat, Spore

Debian is as inexorable as the moon, tides and wind, slowly rolling over it's opposition, with all the time in the world, with an army of zealous programmers dedicated to the social ideal.

The real romance is out ahead and yet to come. The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor adaptations of incomplete ideas. --Alan Kay

When in danger, when in doubt; run in circles, scream and shout. --Robert A. Heinlein

AnnoyingQuote changed!
Annoying zwiki user

All your wiki are belong to us!

Take off every Wiki! For great justice!

You ask "Why haven't any models come about that support what people really want?" My answer is that what people really want is high quality content for free, and for a half-dozen years, the net has been incredibly good at delivering on that desire. Now that the "stock price as business model" plan has failed, most of the sites built in that era will disappear. --Clay Shirky

MUHAHA the speed is back!

AngryDenial !!

Comfort the Disturbed and Disturb the Comforted

Saying no is a creative act

no responses re VirtualHostingSummary here or on the zope list so I am assuming this is no longer a problem or a 1.0 showstopper --SM

HowToHelpZwiki?

Sometimes we forget that whenever you do exactly what everybody else does, you lose an opportunity for a competitive advantage.

"Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul" - Edward Abbey

He smoked every club in New York; and every heart that heard him; and Time itself was beaten and confused and fell lamb-like under the spell of his fabulous, flashing fingers --Mike Scott

So basically, just by putting this here. Now everyone see's MY quote? How cool! -anonymous

What's the matter with your drummer? He seems a little crazed. -Kermit the Frog

Fear is the lock, laughter the key, to your heart

I'm not tense - just terribly, terribly alert

You don't have to make Change your friend.....
...but it is your constant companion.
anon

There is no governor anywhere. You are absolutely free.

I have a cunning plan. -Baldrick ("Planning XP" preface)

Truth is out there

At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession.

Have a nice day.

I remember where I came from..
it's a long, thin thread..
across an ocean..
down a river of red..
--Laurie Anderson

How doth the little crocodile
        Improve his shining tail,
And pour the waters of the Nile
        On every golden scale!

How cheerfully he seems to grin, How neatly spreads his claws, And welcomes little fishes in, With gently smiling jaws! -- Lewis Carrol, "Alice in Wonderland"

It needs to be on one line

Hier kann man ja tolle sachen reinschreiben! (babelfish: Here one can write in mad things!)

xxx...

join the ZWikiDiscussion?..

YaaaaHooo?!

...Put knot yore trust inn spiel chequers, two bee spelt write is naught aqueduct.

This page is really weird --Anon

"There are two types of programming languages: the ones you complain about, and the ones you don't use."

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/freedom-or-power.html --Kuhn and Stallman

What a wiki game you play, to make me feel this way!

Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) in Blade Runner (Ridley Scott 1982):
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. *

(hobbits:) "They eat seven or eight times a day, like to take naps, have never been far from home and have eyes that grow wide at the sounds of the night. They are like children grown up or grown old, and when they rise to an occasion, it takes true heroism, for they are timid by nature and would rather avoid a fight." "Good god! I never thought of it before, but you have just described the vast majority of the IT department where I work." --slashdot

Lawrence Lessig slashdot interview:
The more I'm in this battle, the less I believe that constitutional law on its own can solve the problem. If Americans can't see the value of freedom without the help of lawyers, then we don't deserve freedom. We should be working to help Americans recognize freedom again. *

happy new year

Slashdot (to MPAA): You fucking fascists. We hate you.
MPAA: But look at these shiny colors!
Slashdot: Oooh! How much?

Figured out the scsi bus hang. One of the hot swap drives on the powerstack had failed in a way that took out the entire bus when the drive was present. I've saved the drive to use for terrifying high availability people. --Alan Cox

Premature optimization is the root of all evil.
Donald Knuth
Die, v.: To stop sinning suddenly.
Elbert Hubbard

RoboCop?: I'll buy that for a dollar!

The original Wiki is a tiny Perl script, but versions now exist in Python, Squeak, and other places where geeks do the Right Thing so much it becomes Wrong Again. --NTK

zwiki mentioned on weblogs.com

One hot tip: if you spot a bug which is being ignored, send a completely botched fix to the mailing list. This causes thousands of kernel developers to rally to the cause. Nobody knows why this happens. (I really have deliberately done this several times. It works). --Andrew Morton

Make not to have, but to know

Because I'm the sysadmin. That's why.

What is this talk of release? Klingons do not make software releases. Our software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and Quality Assurance people in its wake.
Klingon Programmer

Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's going to throw his best parties. --Jack Handey

Crap, I don't know why I called this basic, I'd hate to see a complicated one. --Andrew Milton on exUserFolder's basicMemberSource

http://zwiki.org/releases/ZWiki-0.9.9rc1.tgz is out, needs testing

2002/04/09: http://zwiki.org/releases/ZWiki-0.9.9rc2.tgz is out, needs testing

2002/04/10: http://zwiki.org/releases/ZWiki-0.9.9rc3.tgz is out, release imminent

2002/04/13: ZWiki-0.9.9rc4.tgz is out

Meditate: One of the most consistent benefits reported by meditators is increased energy. Improved quality of sleep and heightened concentration rank up there, too. Meditation is usually performed for ten to twenty minutes once or twice a day, and is easy to learn. (Ha!)

---- Link to LeAh?

Duck: I'm thinking of becoming a Quaker.
Souperman: SEE! I told YOU you were missing something!

If it Ain't Broke, Break it!

If it's broke, go get a beer!

Try FastChanges?!

I don't need to waste my time with a computer just because I'm a computer scientist. [Medical researchers are not required to suffer from the diseases they investigate.] --E.W. Dijkstra

Do or do not. There is no try. --Yoda

Emoticons tack on no tact to the attack. ;->

Availability creates necessity. Why?
Jeremy

all modification times lost.. migrating to last_edit_time which should be more permanent. Speedups for all recentchanges pages.


2002/05/16 18:32 GMT (via web):
all sanity lost reverting to last known state of conciousness

Tip: while in the edit form textarea, hit tab enter to save

Tip: in your imeme shell account, don't do tar -cvzf Data.fs Data.fs-20020522.tgz


2002/05/24 16:31 GMT (via web):
Tip: use emacs picture-mode to edit StructuredTextTables

Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. --Knuth
(found on DebianWiki?)

Rules of the Evil Overlord #222. "I reserve the right to execute any henchmen who appear to be a little too intelligent, powerful, or devious. However if I do so, I will not at some subsequent point shout "Why am I surrounded by these incompetent fools?!"


2002/06/11 02:38 GMT (via web):
...Yoko brought her walrus... -Ricky Nelson, "Garden Party"

Only users lose drugs


2002/06/29 01:49 GMT (via web):
GeneralDiscussion has never been confused with CaptainChat?

If sometimes you feel yourself little, useless, offended and depressed, always remember that you were once the fastest and most victorious sperm out of hundreds of millions.

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If the red slayer think he slays,
Or if the slain think he is slain,
They know not well the subtle ways
I keep, and pass, and turn again.

Last chance to vote at http://www.zopezen.org/Awards/vote

Far or forgot to me is near;
Shadow and sunlight are the same;
The vanished gods to me appear;
And one to me are shame and fame.

If you really want to know the underlying hidden agenda of The Sims, read Philip K Dick's short story "The Life and Times of Perky Pat", and novel "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch". --somewhere on the net

You want backstory and character development? Read a fucking book. You want innovation in the FPS world (what sort of goddamned criticism is that?)? No one's stopping you from making your own game. Serious Sam has showed us that there's something to be sead for giving us a mindless adrenaline rush and who am I to argue with an even prettier mindless adrenaline rush? Sign me the fuck up. --doom III getting respect over on SlashDot

zwiki.org is now using PageTemplate, watch out for hazards

ZWiki-0.10 is out

KDE/Gnome release manager interview: Recently, I compared the release team's role to the game "Pipe Dream". In the game, you place pipes to avoid the sticky green nuclear goop from oozing out into the city. If, for a moment, you visualise unreleased software as sticky green nuclear goop (come on, it's not that hard), we're the dudes laying down the pipes, trying to save the city from hideous distruction.

It is a period of system war. User programs, striking from a hidden directory, have won their first victory against the evil Administrative Empire.During the battle, User spies managed to steal secret source code to the Empire's ultimate program: the Are-Em Star, a privileged root program with enough power to destroy an entire file structure. Pursued by the Empire's sinister audit trail, Princess _LPA0 races ~ aboard her shell script, custodian of the stolen listings that could save her people, and restore freedom and games to the network...
DECWARS

Surely this doesn't work...?
It does work. And stop calling me Shirley.
--WikiWikiWeb:OneYearWiki


JohnGreenaway, 2002/09/18 20:28 GMT (via web):
FOR SALE: Parachute, used once, never opened, slightly stained.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is.

Less Talk, more Sexy Fun


DeanGoodmanson, 2002/09/24 14:46 GMT (via web):

A computer scientist is someone who, when told to Go to Hell, sees the go to, rather than the destination, as harmful.

Site has been upgraded to zope 2.6b1, please report problems in the ZwikiIssueTracker

#270 with zope 2.6.0, dtml pages like UserOptions, RecentChanges, SearchPage are broken neutralised; 0.11.0rc1 is out, please test

  1. 11.0rc2 is out, please test
  2. 11.0 is out
All of life's big problems include the words indictment or inoperable. Everything else is small stuff.
Alton Brown

Tip: click "simple", then turn on page hierarchy in UserOptions?

Hum hum : Hello World ?!

Man looks up on a yellow sky
And the rain turns to rust in his eye..

Rumours of his health are lies
Old England is dying..

"You know your code's gone bad when it's easier to rewrite it by reverse engineering a packed binary file format, than it is to understand it by thought alone." - A. Gough

Just then, a cry went up. "Where?!" "There!!!" The coders pointed. For the people of Ploneville had unfurled a zWiki...! - laura trippi

MUhahahahaahaaahahahaha

we continue to give them something working before they can say "stop." --Wyatt Sutherland's XP diary

define "obsolete computer"

Perfect of virtue, always acting with recollection, and liberated by final realisation - Mara does not know the path such people travel. 57

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the partsyou are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer.-- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Death, the end-maker, will exercise his will on a man busy picking flowers with a besotted mind, before he has even found satisfaction. 48

"[Tim Bray] says that the web of linked documents, as an architectural style, is a wildly productive
and fun -- way to do software development. " - Jon Udell

ZwikiFAQ? needs updates

I used to have time to take a shower while waiting for 10.1 to boot in the mornings. 10.2 has it down to a few sips of coffee. Maybe it was that goddamn Happy Mac hogging memory all those years. Who'dve thought? --SlashDot on macosx

Garb of your typical cocoon programmer. (ext.) Humour not in the article,but the comments..

ZzzzziiiiIIINNnnnng!


oe, 2002/11/18 03:57 GMT (via web):
heroes are made by wars

The risk is running high of becoming a neverending process yielding no results. Why indeed. With no purpose, there is no design. Of course, from an aesthetic perspective, Wiki is it's own reward. Still, computers are already wiki enough. Software is never truly complete. Bug fixes and third-party support and beta testing and the like. It's all relative. Even the hardware is dynamic when the softare becomes more static, but it's a cycle. It only serves us humans when we make the effort to break the cycle by obtaining and using output, or merely turning it off and breaking from the loop somewhere. Editing is not power, neither is restraint. Wiki enthusiasts need to read more Godel, Escher, Bach, the Eternal Golden Braid. --WikiWikiWeb

[Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. --Jamie Zawinski

Another, more serious pitfall is the failure to consolidate. Although immature code may work fine and be completely acceptable to the customer, excess quantities will make a program unmasterable, leading to extreme specialization of programmers and finally an inflexible product. Shipping first time code is like going into debt. A little debt speeds development so long as it is paid back promptly with a rewrite. Objects make the cost of this transaction tolerable. The danger occurs when the debt is not repaid. Every minute spent on not-quite-right code counts as interest on that debt. Entire engineering organizations can be brought to a stand-still under the debt load of an unconsolidated implementation, object- oriented or otherwise. --http://c2.com/doc/oopsla92.html

All your CPU are belong to us. --2003/05/14 14:46 GMT
"NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU." [sic]?--Vinod Sharma, on a two-page canonical encyclopedia on processors.

Wikis are to online collaboration as the 60's were to sex. :) Wikis encourage free-love and groping...and the holistic inter-connectedness of all things in the wicki. -yeah, baby! Trevor Toenjes, : on the Zope mailinglist, in a reply to the question "What is a Wiki?". Source: ZopeZen?

Oftentimes some doing needs to be part of the planning. And some planning needs to be part of that self-same doing. Expecting a Big Plan up front usually doesn't work any better than hackety-hack-oh-look-what-I-have. --Tim Rowledge

Sometimes it's good that the same code be written more than once. You call it reinventing the wheel, but I call it perfecting the technique. :-) --Shane Hathaway

Warning! You may experience [frequent errors while using zwiki.org]? just now. We're debugging these so other sites won't have to. Please see that page for details, and help if you can.

My initial reaction was that it's hard to write unit tests against code like this. But then I remembered that I thought the same thing of Zope about 2 years ago, and now we have about 2000 fully automated tests for both Zope 2 and Zope 3. --Shane Hathaway

FWIW, of all the software-related things I've learned in the past three years, automated testing is by far the most important lesson. It can turn failure into success, and it's easy with a very high-level language. --Shane Hathaway

When it comes to that old theme of web developers, separating presentation and logic, I cannot but admit that Zope beats PHP hands down (of course, unless you DTMLify? all of your Zope applications and gave them welcome-to-my-jungle looks) --Wankyu Choi

Happy Xmas!

I've also had it with the force shield that protects the Enterprise. The power on this thing is always going down. In movie after movie after movie I have to sit through sequences during which the captain is tersely informed that the front shield is down to 60 percent, or the back shield is down to 10 percent, or the side shield is leaking energy, and the captain tersely orders that power be shifted from the back to the sides or all put in the front, or whatever, and I'm thinking, life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields. --Roger Ebert

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. --Jamie Zawinski

My purpose in writing programmer tests is primarily emotional--so I feel better about my code tomorrow than I do today. I loathe the feeling of starting a project knowing that in a year I'll hate the code and wish never to see it again. Nothing is impossible for the up-lifted spirit. I use programmer tests to keep my spirit up. --Kent Beck

It's time for us to be a little less intellectually pure, a little more pragmatic, and a lot more successful. --Paul Everitt on zope3-dev

if-you're-on-an-irritating-project-it's-energizing -to-attack-a-piece-of-it-you-hate-ly y'rs --Tim Rowledge

Put things under your desk that knock their shins --WikiWikiWeb:HowToPissOffYourPair

Hum or whistle classical music, off-key, whenever nobody is speaking. --WikiWikiWeb:HowToPissOffYourPair

"I believe the only incompetence was in their believing that they had a science and could predict the unpredictable." - Ken Schwaber

People need access to accurate information and a way to talk over what they have learned in order to understand what is in their long-term best interest. We need systems that encourage critical thinking. --Cecile Andrews, The Circle of Simplicity

AnnoyingQuote: Please, very long quotes really are annoying

Tell me and I forget. Show me and I remember. Involve me and I understand. --Chinese saying

No matter what Zope Corporation thinks, it holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City --The truth about Zope Corporation

Zieragatz ah hweinen! Al embray sie aramen kor ubestisar.

One power with a president who has no foresight
who cannot think properly -- is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust. --Nelson Mandela

"You're rarely as nimble in action as intention.", he said with an intellectual stretch. (A Tom Swiftie attempt)

WikiPedia page for thought: WikiPedia:Big_Dumb_Object.

Take pleasure in being careful. Guard your mind well. Extricate yourself from the mire, like a great tusker sunk in the mud. 327

DeanGoodmanson, 2003/03/12 01:45 GMT
Test: a Python story is a troll if it mentions Perl. Likewise, a Perl story is a troll if it mentions Python. - Slashdot

2003/03/18 00:55 GMT
i've always loved the wiki idea, but i see it's been ruined by programmers who don't value transparency...

Attention and trust are sacrosanct. --How Google Grows...and Grows...and Grows

backlinks work in progress, pardon the dust

the practice of highlighting important words with asterisks has come in under the radar and is now ubiquitous. --Tim Bray

"the skill of writing is to create a context in which other people can think." - Edwin Schlossberg, via Tim O'Reilly

The Python people also piped to say "everything's just fine here" but then they always do, I really must learn that language. --Tim Bray

When we're able to make music on the streets, we're saying: This is the world we want to live in ... for the long term we need to please each other and please ourselves. I'm not going to any more rallies without bringing my trumpet. --Paul Schmitt

This problem goes back a number of years and is used to demonstrate how angry people can get when they don’t agree with an answer. - Monty Hall Problem

I bet a WikiWikiWiki would be realllyyy fast, OR, a line from a Will Smith song. - Wiki Wonderer from Wisconsin.

I ask Kay how we encourage the production of better educational software for kids. He answers, "don't buy bad stuff." -openp2p.com

..when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce. And it doesn't take much to shift the tide. --Tim Robbins

they created a desolation, and called it peace Tacitus

I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by --Douglas Adams (Lament For Douglas)

xunil --2003/05/06 16:17 GMT
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. (xunil)

... --PieterB, 2003/05/08 14:08 GMT
I have an easier time reading stuff like this on dead tree carcasses -- Barry - Mailman Warsaw

We need a language that lets us scribble and smudge and smear, not a language where you have to sit with a teacup of types balanced on your knee and make polite conversation with a strict old aunt of a compiler. --Paul Graham

Blogs are for hearing about what an individual says about something. Wikis are for seeing what a community thinks about something. - via David James Duncan

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... --DeanGoodmanson, 2003/07/05 15:49 GMT reply
The best thing to come of this recent RSS/Echo issue is that Sam Ruby has demonstrated the value of the Wiki Wiki Web. -Patrick Logan

For many years I have been saying that the next Buddha that will come to us will take the form of a Sangha and not an individual. That is not a fantasy on my part, but the insight I have got through my life, through my experience. --Thich Nhat Hanh

Desperately in need of PurpleNumbers: Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest results, 2003 (humor. fun. :-)

Compared with zWiki circa summer 2002, the ZPT + CSS version is a streamlined, customizers dream. --LauraTrippi

..Bikram got off to a fast start at the Lhasa meet, which like most major competitions, is a six-event affair. In the first event, he attained total consciousness (TC) in just 2 minutes, 34 seconds, and set the tone for the rest of the meet by repeatedly shouting, "I'm blissful! You blissful?! I'm blissful!" to the other yogis.

If it's not documented, it doesn't exist --Adele Goldberg

True meaning of computer book names

"A wiki is a collection of living documents that make a space. ..."

The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code - not in reams of trivial code that bores the reader to death. --Guido van Rossum

Attention Windows users: There is no Windows version of xscreensaver, and there never will be. Please stop asking. That goes double for the ``xmatrix'' mode. No. The answer is no. I don't use any Microsoft products and neither should you. --jwz

There are three roads to ruin: women, gambling, and technicians. The most pleasant is with women, the quickest is with gambling, but the surest is with technicians.
Georges Pompidou

... --DeanGoodmanson, Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:29:49 -0700 reply
"Instead, it provides more flexibility, a crazy amount of flexibility, an intoxicating amount of flexibility ..." - Wikis, Grafitti, and Process(sic), Clay Shirky

Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom ? --Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Adams

And always, always have something to show people (users, developers, business people, the press) that works today, is polished (good installation, ample docs, high quality, and completed functionality with slick UI), and is clearly being supported (lists, IRC, forums, newsletters with buzz, and regular module/Product releases) - that gets you the gold of credibility. --Kai Wu, ex-Ars Digita

Engineers are really slow. It takes them months to get anything done. If what they do is only used once, it's a waste of a limited resource.

"To simplify a game, you have to not listen to your customers," he said. "They know your product and really know what they want to add to it. ... It's always easy to convince someone that adding something is a good idea. Saying less is more just doesn't go over well." --John Carmack

Be regular and orderly in your life, so that you may be violent and original in your work. --Flaubert

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary --H.L. Mencken

There are some who feel like that, you know, the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is bring 'em on. We got the force necessary to deal with the security situation. --George Bush Jr, 2003/7/2

"Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

A few vultures had circled the skyscrapers in the morning, and by mid-afternoon there must have been fifty of them, a flock of black carrion-eaters soaring sometimes above, sometimes below the level of the helicopters. --Fragments of the Future: The FTAA in Miami

Happy Thanksgiving

Whatever we do, we must overwhelm the contrived urgency of the war on terror with our own passion and intensity. Many Americans feel these are extraordinary times requiring unprecedented actions. They are right, but the actions are not a crusade against disenfranchised Muslims. --Britt Blaser

Everybody wants the government to be as user-friendly as Amazon. Everybody wants transparency everywhere in government: voting auditability, legislation, cloak room deal-cutting, pork, contracting, etc. And we all want the cost of government to drop like ISP pricing. And no one wants politicians getting in the way of governance any more. At some level, we know this is possible and inevitable. But should we have to wait a couple of decades for our overdue upgrade? --Britt Blaser

"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." --Weinberg's second law:

I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it. --Pablo Picasso

Q: What's the message of your movie? Kurosawa: If I could answer that, I would have printed it on a card and held it up in front of the camera.

"`Real Software Engineers admire Turing machines for the clarity and orthogonality of their instruction set. It's just too bad they're so poor at I/O.` Hmm, of what other paradigm does this remind us? " - WikiWiki:TuringMachine

Computers do not think. However, they have own will.
Arthur Albano

OSDir: Community building... interesting... what's the secret sauce? Limi: Irresponsible sleep patterns. Runyan: Non-stop work. Enabling people to work with each other.

Yes, this is my truck. No, I wont help you move.

D'oh!
Homer Simpson
Foo
some programmer
i got some new chockl8 bubblegun
gir

There are 110 types of people. Those who understand WikiWiki:NegaBinary , and those who don't.

"It does not hold up against Halo, let alone any of the next-gen titles like HL2.". "I, for one, welcome our new time travelling overlords..." --slashdot

zzZZrrzz
a sleepy cat

My wife is ugly, but she is stupid instead

"I am the serenest!" Bikram shouted to the estimated crowd of 20,000 yoga fans, vigorously pumping his fists. "No one is serener than Sri Dhananjai Bikram; I am the greatest monk of all time!" --the Onion

The California smoking ban improved my nightlife experience immeasurably. It only takes one trip out of the state to remind me of the horrors of coming home and having to leave my clothing outside because I can't stand to be in the room with their post-club stench. Hell, I can't wait until they ban smoking on sidewalks. And after cigarettes, I hope they go after patchoulli. I don't want to smell any of you fuckers! Get away from me! --jwz

As a very young child my mother gave me a book called Free Writing and we were encouraged to write fearlessly. The first coherent sentence I ever wrote, which is actually in this book, was written when I was five. It was about an Australian missionary who taught me. Every day she would say, I can see Satan in your eyes. So, the first sentence I ever wrote was: I hate Miss Mitten and I think her knickers are torn. --Arundhati Roy

The problem with the French, is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur. --George W Bush

Sustained success in business comes not from superhuman effort or super genius, but from building and running an organisation that does extraordinary things with ordinary people. --John Walker, The Autodesk File

If you're a writer and you're not writing, you need to go somewhere --Neil Young on environment (writes in his car)

I know what to do to make the world more free and more peaceful
George W. Bush

SQL-enabled lists appear to scale well even beyond 500,000 subscribers. --ezmlm readme

There will come a time when one will have to forget all that one has learned.

We have not journeyed all this way across the centuries, across the oceans, across the mountains, across the prairies, because we are made of sugar candy � Winston Churchill

Time to fill bike with fuel and open throttle, we are on best road in this area, this one lead from big egg to Chernobyl. There is no commercial gas stations in a dead zone, so tank must be full. We don't need to run out of fuel on the middle of some nuclear desert.

I suppose a logical extension of this is to use a single wiki page with the article at the top and the comments following. This would end up looking much like Ward's Wiki at C2, and right now it's a little depressing to think that all of my mental effort would simply bring me back to using an idea and structure that they thought of years ago, so I won't go there just yet --Bruce Eckel

down with chaos and bureaucracy; neither too much nor too little structure, but just the right amount, at the right place and time

... -- Mon, 05 Apr 2004 12:16:00 -0700 reply
a fool with a tool is still just a fool.

Installing Linux on a Dead Badger --slashdot, april 6

The current role of the federal government and the federal credit is slowly draining the middle class and introducing feudalism. --whereisthemoney FAQ

... --simon, Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:42:20 -0700 reply
The BBC is reporting that, according to a recent survey, more than 70% of people would willingly give up their computer password in exchange for as little as a bar of chocolate. Over a third of the people surveyed even gave out their password without having to be bribed, and most indicated that they were fed up with having to use passwords.

... --simon, Sun, 25 Apr 2004 01:16:47 -0700 reply
Note that this page will constantly evolve as the installer progresses. If there's something on it you know is wrong, fix it. Do not waste your time complaining, just press the EDIT button and fix it yourself. --DebianWiki?

My goal is for this forum to be one of the most active, goal-oriented, collaborative, kick-butt planning and execution arenas for Solari activities. Then we can all have that warm fuzzy feeling that human beings automatically get for taking responsibility for the future survival of their species. But to get that warm fuzzy feeling, first takes DISCIPLINE! --Thomas

All I wanted was a pepsi, just one pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me. --Suicidal Tendancies

How do we help Americans understand the incredible opportunity we have to shut off the financing of war and create new jobs if we will organize to bring transparency to government resources in our neighborhoods and start to “vote with our money” for honest leadership? For with no transparency, there will be no equity – not under divine law or the laws of science and financial wealth. Indeed, in a healthy culture and economy such laws are one and the same. (+ torture pictures)

Early on I decided to invest a substantial portion of my time on correctness. I wrote the optimizer in Haskell, so I benefited from Haskell's wicked-powerful type system, which catches a lot of problems all by itself, and then I used QuickCheck?, an automatic testing tool, to further automate away the pain of testing. Here are a few examples from my log that show how a tool like QuickCheck? can be your best friend in a tight coding corner Seven Lessons from the ICFP Programming Contest

The flood of work helping people solve problems on their desktops made the prospect of programming impossible, since the cognitive demands of writing code - concentration, planning, and imagination - were irreconcilable with technical support work, which depends on responsiveness, speed and flexibility. He could not work on applications because on-site support would pull him away from his desk. Phone calls constantly interrupted him while he was trying to code, he said. "I have lost the thread by the time I put down the receiver&. By the time I make it to my desk I'm confused: 'where was I?'" --Perspectives of African FOSS developers

May they rest in peace in the hackers heaven, where hardware doesn't suck and code builds without even a warning.

Technical drawing pens follow the same size-ratio principle. The standard sizes differ by a factor sqrt(2): 2.00 mm, 1.40 mm, 1.00 mm, 0.70 mm, 0.50 mm, 0.35 mm, 0.25 mm, 0.18 mm, 0.13 mm. So after drawing with a 0.35 mm pen on A3 paper and reducing it to A4, you can continue with the 0.25 mm pen. (ISO 9175-1) International Standard Paper Sizes

In our world you simply can't fight a guerrilla war like this to control another country and remain "of good character." Let me just assure both the President and Senator Kerry that when those troops return home, many of them won't feel of good character. The fact is: The longer we keep our troops in Iraq the more we assure their brutalization. The truth is: We do them no favor by praising them unrealistically to the skies in order to keep them in Iraq till Hell freezes over. The favor we could do them, of course, would be to bring them home and fast. Chaos in Washington

Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. --Arundhati Roy, Porto Alegre, Brazil, World Social Forum, January 27, 2003

Read it again. Say it out loud, hear it, listen to it, accept it. If you are a patriot, as I am, feel the way it hits your stomach and stays there, destroys your appetite, knocks down the straightness of your shoulders. Americans, acting on behalf of America, tortured the hell out of people. Don't let the words change for you, and slide the full truth of what has happened away. As one who loves this country, it's maybe too painful to look directly into the truth of this matter for too long. As one who loves this country, being seared by the shame our countrymen have brought down on us is a necessary step toward making things right. Gaze full-on into it, and let it make you humble again. --slashdot

If a man gives way to all his desires, or panders to them, there will be no inner struggle in him, no ‘friction’, no fire. But if, for the sake of attaining a definite aim, he struggles with desires that hinder him, he will then create a fire which will gradually transform his inner world into a single whole.” --Ouspensky

... -- Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:32:16 -0700 reply
"I'm not eccentric - everyone else is."

When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. - Anonymous

... --SimonMichael, Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:57:07 -0700 reply
although it took effort to push this through, it really was an idea whose time had come. There were already people building descriptions of UI and the building it dynamically. No one had done it exactly how we did it, but it wasn't a huge leap. Now it's mainstream: for example, iTunes' entire interface is built using XML. It looks like it's built with Webkit but it's not — it is XML specified. I don't think people copied us, however, I think people had the same motivation that we had to follow this course: it lowers the bar to development, widening the input and opening up UI design to the massively-parallel open source community. --Scott Collins

amy rocks --SimonMichael, Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:59:04 -0700 reply
Goodman is full of enthusiasm for the project, optimistic about the ability to reach a broad audience and, of course, very critical of so-called "mainstream" media. She points out that in the two weeks leading up to the invasion of Iraq, the four major nightly newscasts - on ABC, NBC, CBS and "The NewsHour? With Jim Lehrer" on PBS - there were 393 interviews done about the war. Only three interviews were with anti-war representatives. Opponents of the invasion were a statistical blip. "That is no longer mainstream media," Goodman says. "That does not reflect mainstream America at a time when a majority of Americans opposed an invasion without more inspections for weapons of mass destruction, and diplomacy." --Amy Goodman a Refreshing Voice

... --simon, Tue, 06 Jul 2004 18:20:27 -0700 reply
The great towering figure of Bucky Fuller ran this program into a wall at a thousand miles an hour. Fuller floated the fantasic idea that abundance was the natural condition, and he set about to prove it.

... --simon, Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:57:36 -0700 reply
Behind all the war and aggression based on obtaining and controlling oil, there is an elite that wants to impart the hypnotic idea that oil is our only option. And what better way to do that than by presenting these wars as evidence that the thing being fought over must be the most valued and necessary item on the planet. It's a very, very old trick. No More Fake News

... --simon, Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:49:00 -0700 reply
Moore emphasizes the close connections between the Bush family and the Saudis. But all of us who drive cars and use electricity have a close relationship with the Saudis. *

Wikis are to online collaboration as the 60's were to sex. :) Wikis encourage free-love and groping...and the holistic inter-connectedness of all things in the wicki. -yeah, baby! Trevor Toenjes, : on the Zope mailinglist, in a reply to the question "What is a Wiki?". Source: ZopeZen?

Oftentimes some doing needs to be part of the planning. And some planning needs to be part of that self-same doing. Expecting a Big Plan up front usually doesn't work any better than hackety-hack-oh-look-what-I-have. --Tim Rowledge

Sometimes it's good that the same code be written more than once. You call it reinventing the wheel, but I call it perfecting the technique. :-) --Shane Hathaway

Warning! You may experience [frequent errors while using zwiki.org]? just now. We're debugging these so other sites won't have to. Please see that page for details, and help if you can.

My initial reaction was that it's hard to write unit tests against code like this. But then I remembered that I thought the same thing of Zope about 2 years ago, and now we have about 2000 fully automated tests for both Zope 2 and Zope 3. --Shane Hathaway

FWIW, of all the software-related things I've learned in the past three years, automated testing is by far the most important lesson. It can turn failure into success, and it's easy with a very high-level language. --Shane Hathaway

When it comes to that old theme of web developers, separating presentation and logic, I cannot but admit that Zope beats PHP hands down (of course, unless you DTMLify? all of your Zope applications and gave them welcome-to-my-jungle looks) --Wankyu Choi

Happy Xmas!

I've also had it with the force shield that protects the Enterprise. The power on this thing is always going down. In movie after movie after movie I have to sit through sequences during which the captain is tersely informed that the front shield is down to 60 percent, or the back shield is down to 10 percent, or the side shield is leaking energy, and the captain tersely orders that power be shifted from the back to the sides or all put in the front, or whatever, and I'm thinking, life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields. --Roger Ebert

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. --Jamie Zawinski

My purpose in writing programmer tests is primarily emotional--so I feel better about my code tomorrow than I do today. I loathe the feeling of starting a project knowing that in a year I'll hate the code and wish never to see it again. Nothing is impossible for the up-lifted spirit. I use programmer tests to keep my spirit up. --Kent Beck

It's time for us to be a little less intellectually pure, a little more pragmatic, and a lot more successful. --Paul Everitt on zope3-dev

if-you're-on-an-irritating-project-it's-energizing -to-attack-a-piece-of-it-you-hate-ly y'rs --Tim Rowledge

Put things under your desk that knock their shins --WikiWikiWeb:HowToPissOffYourPair

Hum or whistle classical music, off-key, whenever nobody is speaking. --WikiWikiWeb:HowToPissOffYourPair

"I believe the only incompetence was in their believing that they had a science and could predict the unpredictable." - Ken Schwaber

People need access to accurate information and a way to talk over what they have learned in order to understand what is in their long-term best interest. We need systems that encourage critical thinking. --Cecile Andrews, The Circle of Simplicity

AnnoyingQuote: Please, very long quotes really are annoying

Tell me and I forget. Show me and I remember. Involve me and I understand. --Chinese saying

No matter what Zope Corporation thinks, it holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City --The truth about Zope Corporation

Zieragatz ah hweinen! Al embray sie aramen kor ubestisar.

One power with a president who has no foresight
who cannot think properly -- is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust. --Nelson Mandela

"You're rarely as nimble in action as intention.", he said with an intellectual stretch. (A Tom Swiftie attempt)

WikiPedia page for thought: WikiPedia:Big_Dumb_Object.

Take pleasure in being careful. Guard your mind well. Extricate yourself from the mire, like a great tusker sunk in the mud. 327

DeanGoodmanson, 2003/03/12 01:45 GMT
Test: a Python story is a troll if it mentions Perl. Likewise, a Perl story is a troll if it mentions Python. - Slashdot

2003/03/18 00:55 GMT
i've always loved the wiki idea, but i see it's been ruined by programmers who don't value transparency...

Attention and trust are sacrosanct. --How Google Grows...and Grows...and Grows

backlinks work in progress, pardon the dust

the practice of highlighting important words with asterisks has come in under the radar and is now ubiquitous. --Tim Bray

"the skill of writing is to create a context in which other people can think." - Edwin Schlossberg, via Tim O'Reilly

The Python people also piped to say "everything's just fine here" but then they always do, I really must learn that language. --Tim Bray

When we're able to make music on the streets, we're saying: This is the world we want to live in ... for the long term we need to please each other and please ourselves. I'm not going to any more rallies without bringing my trumpet. --Paul Schmitt

This problem goes back a number of years and is used to demonstrate how angry people can get when they don’t agree with an answer. - Monty Hall Problem

I bet a WikiWikiWiki would be realllyyy fast, OR, a line from a Will Smith song. - Wiki Wonderer from Wisconsin.

I ask Kay how we encourage the production of better educational software for kids. He answers, "don't buy bad stuff." -openp2p.com

..when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce. And it doesn't take much to shift the tide. --Tim Robbins

they created a desolation, and called it peace Tacitus

I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by --Douglas Adams (Lament For Douglas)

xunil --2003/05/06 16:17 GMT
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. (xunil)

... --PieterB, 2003/05/08 14:08 GMT
I have an easier time reading stuff like this on dead tree carcasses -- Barry - Mailman Warsaw

We need a language that lets us scribble and smudge and smear, not a language where you have to sit with a teacup of types balanced on your knee and make polite conversation with a strict old aunt of a compiler. --Paul Graham

Blogs are for hearing about what an individual says about something. Wikis are for seeing what a community thinks about something. - via David James Duncan

... --DeanGoodmanson, 2003/07/05 15:49 GMT reply
The best thing to come of this recent RSS/Echo issue is that Sam Ruby has demonstrated the value of the Wiki Wiki Web. -Patrick Logan

For many years I have been saying that the next Buddha that will come to us will take the form of a Sangha and not an individual. That is not a fantasy on my part, but the insight I have got through my life, through my experience. --Thich Nhat Hanh

Desperately in need of PurpleNumbers: Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest results, 2003 (humor. fun. :-)

Compared with zWiki circa summer 2002, the ZPT + CSS version is a streamlined, customizers dream. --LauraTrippi

..Bikram got off to a fast start at the Lhasa meet, which like most major competitions, is a six-event affair. In the first event, he attained total consciousness (TC) in just 2 minutes, 34 seconds, and set the tone for the rest of the meet by repeatedly shouting, "I'm blissful! You blissful?! I'm blissful!" to the other yogis.

If it's not documented, it doesn't exist --Adele Goldberg

True meaning of computer book names

"A wiki is a collection of living documents that make a space. ..."

The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code - not in reams of trivial code that bores the reader to death. --Guido van Rossum

Attention Windows users: There is no Windows version of xscreensaver, and there never will be. Please stop asking. That goes double for the ``xmatrix'' mode. No. The answer is no. I don't use any Microsoft products and neither should you. --jwz

There are three roads to ruin: women, gambling, and technicians. The most pleasant is with women, the quickest is with gambling, but the surest is with technicians.
Georges Pompidou

... --DeanGoodmanson, Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:29:49 -0700 reply
"Instead, it provides more flexibility, a crazy amount of flexibility, an intoxicating amount of flexibility ..." - Wikis, Grafitti, and Process(sic), Clay Shirky

Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom ? --Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Adams

And always, always have something to show people (users, developers, business people, the press) that works today, is polished (good installation, ample docs, high quality, and completed functionality with slick UI), and is clearly being supported (lists, IRC, forums, newsletters with buzz, and regular module/Product releases) - that gets you the gold of credibility. --Kai Wu, ex-Ars Digita

Engineers are really slow. It takes them months to get anything done. If what they do is only used once, it's a waste of a limited resource.

"To simplify a game, you have to not listen to your customers," he said. "They know your product and really know what they want to add to it. ... It's always easy to convince someone that adding something is a good idea. Saying less is more just doesn't go over well." --John Carmack

Be regular and orderly in your life, so that you may be violent and original in your work. --Flaubert

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary --H.L. Mencken

There are some who feel like that, you know, the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is bring 'em on. We got the force necessary to deal with the security situation. --George Bush Jr, 2003/7/2

"Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

A few vultures had circled the skyscrapers in the morning, and by mid-afternoon there must have been fifty of them, a flock of black carrion-eaters soaring sometimes above, sometimes below the level of the helicopters. --Fragments of the Future: The FTAA in Miami

Happy Thanksgiving

Whatever we do, we must overwhelm the contrived urgency of the war on terror with our own passion and intensity. Many Americans feel these are extraordinary times requiring unprecedented actions. They are right, but the actions are not a crusade against disenfranchised Muslims. --Britt Blaser

Everybody wants the government to be as user-friendly as Amazon. Everybody wants transparency everywhere in government: voting auditability, legislation, cloak room deal-cutting, pork, contracting, etc. And we all want the cost of government to drop like ISP pricing. And no one wants politicians getting in the way of governance any more. At some level, we know this is possible and inevitable. But should we have to wait a couple of decades for our overdue upgrade? --Britt Blaser

"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." --Weinberg's second law:

I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it. --Pablo Picasso

Q: What's the message of your movie? Kurosawa: If I could answer that, I would have printed it on a card and held it up in front of the camera.

"`Real Software Engineers admire Turing machines for the clarity and orthogonality of their instruction set. It's just too bad they're so poor at I/O.` Hmm, of what other paradigm does this remind us? " - WikiWiki:TuringMachine

Computers do not think. However, they have own will.
Arthur Albano

OSDir: Community building... interesting... what's the secret sauce? Limi: Irresponsible sleep patterns. Runyan: Non-stop work. Enabling people to work with each other.

Yes, this is my truck. No, I wont help you move.

D'oh!
Homer Simpson
Foo
some programmer
i got some new chockl8 bubblegun
gir

There are 110 types of people. Those who understand WikiWiki:NegaBinary , and those who don't.

"It does not hold up against Halo, let alone any of the next-gen titles like HL2.". "I, for one, welcome our new time travelling overlords..." --slashdot

zzZZrrzz
a sleepy cat

My wife is ugly, but she is stupid instead

"I am the serenest!" Bikram shouted to the estimated crowd of 20,000 yoga fans, vigorously pumping his fists. "No one is serener than Sri Dhananjai Bikram; I am the greatest monk of all time!" --the Onion

The California smoking ban improved my nightlife experience immeasurably. It only takes one trip out of the state to remind me of the horrors of coming home and having to leave my clothing outside because I can't stand to be in the room with their post-club stench. Hell, I can't wait until they ban smoking on sidewalks. And after cigarettes, I hope they go after patchoulli. I don't want to smell any of you fuckers! Get away from me! --jwz

As a very young child my mother gave me a book called Free Writing and we were encouraged to write fearlessly. The first coherent sentence I ever wrote, which is actually in this book, was written when I was five. It was about an Australian missionary who taught me. Every day she would say, I can see Satan in your eyes. So, the first sentence I ever wrote was: I hate Miss Mitten and I think her knickers are torn. --Arundhati Roy

The problem with the French, is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur. --George W Bush

Sustained success in business comes not from superhuman effort or super genius, but from building and running an organisation that does extraordinary things with ordinary people. --John Walker, The Autodesk File

If you're a writer and you're not writing, you need to go somewhere --Neil Young on environment (writes in his car)

I know what to do to make the world more free and more peaceful
George W. Bush

SQL-enabled lists appear to scale well even beyond 500,000 subscribers. --ezmlm readme

There will come a time when one will have to forget all that one has learned.

We have not journeyed all this way across the centuries, across the oceans, across the mountains, across the prairies, because we are made of sugar candy � Winston Churchill

Time to fill bike with fuel and open throttle, we are on best road in this area, this one lead from big egg to Chernobyl. There is no commercial gas stations in a dead zone, so tank must be full. We don't need to run out of fuel on the middle of some nuclear desert.

I suppose a logical extension of this is to use a single wiki page with the article at the top and the comments following. This would end up looking much like Ward's Wiki at C2, and right now it's a little depressing to think that all of my mental effort would simply bring me back to using an idea and structure that they thought of years ago, so I won't go there just yet --Bruce Eckel

down with chaos and bureaucracy; neither too much nor too little structure, but just the right amount, at the right place and time

... -- Mon, 05 Apr 2004 12:16:00 -0700 reply
a fool with a tool is still just a fool.

Installing Linux on a Dead Badger --slashdot, april 6

The current role of the federal government and the federal credit is slowly draining the middle class and introducing feudalism. --whereisthemoney FAQ

... --simon, Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:42:20 -0700 reply
The BBC is reporting that, according to a recent survey, more than 70% of people would willingly give up their computer password in exchange for as little as a bar of chocolate. Over a third of the people surveyed even gave out their password without having to be bribed, and most indicated that they were fed up with having to use passwords.

... --simon, Sun, 25 Apr 2004 01:16:47 -0700 reply
Note that this page will constantly evolve as the installer progresses. If there's something on it you know is wrong, fix it. Do not waste your time complaining, just press the EDIT button and fix it yourself. --DebianWiki?

My goal is for this forum to be one of the most active, goal-oriented, collaborative, kick-butt planning and execution arenas for Solari activities. Then we can all have that warm fuzzy feeling that human beings automatically get for taking responsibility for the future survival of their species. But to get that warm fuzzy feeling, first takes DISCIPLINE! --Thomas

All I wanted was a pepsi, just one pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me. --Suicidal Tendancies

How do we help Americans understand the incredible opportunity we have to shut off the financing of war and create new jobs if we will organize to bring transparency to government resources in our neighborhoods and start to “vote with our money” for honest leadership? For with no transparency, there will be no equity – not under divine law or the laws of science and financial wealth. Indeed, in a healthy culture and economy such laws are one and the same. (+ torture pictures)

Early on I decided to invest a substantial portion of my time on correctness. I wrote the optimizer in Haskell, so I benefited from Haskell's wicked-powerful type system, which catches a lot of problems all by itself, and then I used QuickCheck?, an automatic testing tool, to further automate away the pain of testing. Here are a few examples from my log that show how a tool like QuickCheck? can be your best friend in a tight coding corner Seven Lessons from the ICFP Programming Contest

The flood of work helping people solve problems on their desktops made the prospect of programming impossible, since the cognitive demands of writing code - concentration, planning, and imagination - were irreconcilable with technical support work, which depends on responsiveness, speed and flexibility. He could not work on applications because on-site support would pull him away from his desk. Phone calls constantly interrupted him while he was trying to code, he said. "I have lost the thread by the time I put down the receiver&. By the time I make it to my desk I'm confused: 'where was I?'" --Perspectives of African FOSS developers

May they rest in peace in the hackers heaven, where hardware doesn't suck and code builds without even a warning.

Technical drawing pens follow the same size-ratio principle. The standard sizes differ by a factor sqrt(2): 2.00 mm, 1.40 mm, 1.00 mm, 0.70 mm, 0.50 mm, 0.35 mm, 0.25 mm, 0.18 mm, 0.13 mm. So after drawing with a 0.35 mm pen on A3 paper and reducing it to A4, you can continue with the 0.25 mm pen. (ISO 9175-1) International Standard Paper Sizes

In our world you simply can't fight a guerrilla war like this to control another country and remain "of good character." Let me just assure both the President and Senator Kerry that when those troops return home, many of them won't feel of good character. The fact is: The longer we keep our troops in Iraq the more we assure their brutalization. The truth is: We do them no favor by praising them unrealistically to the skies in order to keep them in Iraq till Hell freezes over. The favor we could do them, of course, would be to bring them home and fast. Chaos in Washington

Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. --Arundhati Roy, Porto Alegre, Brazil, World Social Forum, January 27, 2003

Read it again. Say it out loud, hear it, listen to it, accept it. If you are a patriot, as I am, feel the way it hits your stomach and stays there, destroys your appetite, knocks down the straightness of your shoulders. Americans, acting on behalf of America, tortured the hell out of people. Don't let the words change for you, and slide the full truth of what has happened away. As one who loves this country, it's maybe too painful to look directly into the truth of this matter for too long. As one who loves this country, being seared by the shame our countrymen have brought down on us is a necessary step toward making things right. Gaze full-on into it, and let it make you humble again. --slashdot

If a man gives way to all his desires, or panders to them, there will be no inner struggle in him, no ‘friction’, no fire. But if, for the sake of attaining a definite aim, he struggles with desires that hinder him, he will then create a fire which will gradually transform his inner world into a single whole.” --Ouspensky

... -- Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:32:16 -0700 reply
"I'm not eccentric - everyone else is."

When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. - Anonymous

... --SimonMichael, Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:57:07 -0700 reply
although it took effort to push this through, it really was an idea whose time had come. There were already people building descriptions of UI and the building it dynamically. No one had done it exactly how we did it, but it wasn't a huge leap. Now it's mainstream: for example, iTunes' entire interface is built using XML. It looks like it's built with Webkit but it's not — it is XML specified. I don't think people copied us, however, I think people had the same motivation that we had to follow this course: it lowers the bar to development, widening the input and opening up UI design to the massively-parallel open source community. --Scott Collins

amy rocks --SimonMichael, Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:59:04 -0700 reply
Goodman is full of enthusiasm for the project, optimistic about the ability to reach a broad audience and, of course, very critical of so-called "mainstream" media. She points out that in the two weeks leading up to the invasion of Iraq, the four major nightly newscasts - on ABC, NBC, CBS and "The NewsHour? With Jim Lehrer" on PBS - there were 393 interviews done about the war. Only three interviews were with anti-war representatives. Opponents of the invasion were a statistical blip. "That is no longer mainstream media," Goodman says. "That does not reflect mainstream America at a time when a majority of Americans opposed an invasion without more inspections for weapons of mass destruction, and diplomacy." --Amy Goodman a Refreshing Voice

... --simon, Tue, 06 Jul 2004 18:20:27 -0700 reply
The great towering figure of Bucky Fuller ran this program into a wall at a thousand miles an hour. Fuller floated the fantasic idea that abundance was the natural condition, and he set about to prove it.

... --simon, Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:57:36 -0700 reply
Behind all the war and aggression based on obtaining and controlling oil, there is an elite that wants to impart the hypnotic idea that oil is our only option. And what better way to do that than by presenting these wars as evidence that the thing being fought over must be the most valued and necessary item on the planet. It's a very, very old trick. No More Fake News

... --simon, Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:49:00 -0700 reply
Moore emphasizes the close connections between the Bush family and the Saudis. But all of us who drive cars and use electricity have a close relationship with the Saudis. *

... --simon, Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:10:42 -0700 reply
kem sabe sabe kem nao sabe bate palmas (who knows knows who doesnt claps his hands)

... --simon, Tue, 03 Aug 2004 23:18:13 -0700 reply
Because each patch is expected to go through several levels before reaching the top, and because every person including a patch in his system is taking a risk by it (if a patch breaks stuff, its his version that is broken, his development thats affected), feedback gets generated in a very distributed way, by people at all levels. This lowers the latency on feedback, which makes individual patches evolve faster. By the same effect, the developers of patches get feedback on the usefulness of their code much faster. In a somewhat surprising turn, this results in changes to the main kernel being of such quality by the time they get to it, that they're no longer seeing an urgent need for stable release cycles and the pain those entail. --Squeak and network effects

... --Simon Michael, Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:01:59 -0700 reply
<>Years ago, when I was a law clerk, I was impressed by how much Judge Posner could accomplish with one simple question. He would ask, "What exactly is the purpose of this law (or proposed rule)?" It was astonishing how often lawyers would stare or gasp, unable to answer this most basic of questions. I think the least you can ask of government, whatever branch, is that it always have an answer to Posner's question. When acting on behalf of the public, it ought always have a clear reason for what it is doing, that it can articulate without shame, sloganeering, or reliance on non-existent evidence. Is that too much too ask? --Lawrence Lessig's blog

... --SimonMichael, Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:14:28 -0700 reply
From where I stood I could see a huge beam of projected light flooding up into infinity from the reactor. It was like a laser light, caused by the ionisation of the air. It was light-bluish, and it was very beautiful. I watched it for several seconds. If I'd stood there for just a few minutes I would probably have died on the spot because of gamma rays and neutrons and everything else that was spewing out. But Tregub yanked me around the corner to get me out the way. He was older and more experienced. --Cheating Chernobyl

... --SimonMichael, Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:00:05 -0700 reply
The coping strategy that everyone came up with was fascinating. It basically involved cellphones and talk radio. What happened is guys would go out to polling places with their cellphones, they'd see someone obstructing access to the polls, and then they'd call a talk radio station and describe what was going on. That put enough pressure on the police that they had to show up and investigate. It proved remarkably effective. --Ethan Zuckerman interview

... --SimonMichael, Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:04:08 -0700 reply
It gets weirder -- the running code can edit its own source code. This is really useful for user feedback. I quite often write code that puts comments in its source that tells me what the running code is up to. So, the human interface to the running code is its source code. You edit the code to modify the process; the process edits the code in response. That's why it's called feedback.pl. http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/08/31/livecode.html?page=2

... --SimonMichael, Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:03:02 -0700 reply
Exactly what John Dewey heralded at the onset of the twentieth century has indeed happened. Our once highly individualized nation has evolved into a centrally managed village, an agora made up of huge special interests which regard individual voices as irrelevant. The masquerade is managed by having collective agencies speak through particular human beings. Dewey said this would mark a great advance in human affairs, but the net effect is to reduce men and women to the status of functions in whatever subsystem they are placed. Public opinion is turned on and off in laboratory fashion. All this in the name of social efficiency, one of the two main goals of forced schooling. --John Taylor Gatto

Nobody knows....

... --SimonMichael, Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:07:14 -0700 reply
You keep out of this, you're dead. --http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml

... --SimonMichael, Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:52:43 -0700 reply
Mr Pony’s hand slapped the table. “How come you know so much, sir? Did you sit up half the night trying to get to the bottom of it? Have you taken a differential drum apart with a tin opener? Did you spot how the swage armature can be made to jump off the elliptical bearing if you hit the letter K and then send it to a tower with an address higher than yours, but only if you hit the letter Q first and the drum spring is fully wound? Did you spot that the key levels wedge together and the spring forces the arm up and you’re looking at a gearbox full of teeth? Well, I did!” --Terry Pratchett - Going Postal

... -- Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:05:08 -0700 reply
Iraqis like to call this mess ‘the situation.’ When asked ‘how are thing?’ they reply: ‘the situation is very bad.” What they mean by situation is this: the Iraqi government doesn’t control most Iraqi cities, there are several car bombs going off each day around the country killing and injuring scores of innocent people, the country’s roads are becoming impassable and littered by hundreds of landmines and explosive devices aimed to kill American soldiers, there are assassinations, kidnappings and beheadings. The situation, basically, means a raging barbaric guerilla war. In four days, 110 people died and over 300 got injured in Baghdad alone. --Email From Iraq

... -- Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:40:06 -0700 reply
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and hence clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H. L. Mencken

... -- Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:38:46 -0700 reply
Code should be readable by most developers, because as a team you and your team mates should all be successful. Therefore, code should be written with special care, trying to make it very simple. Our problems as developers are usually very simple, and Smalltalk already provides in its library many ways of solving simple problems elegantly. This is something that can be done. Or not. Because unnecessary complexity artificially raises the value of small accomplishments. Caesars thrive in such environments at the cost of making the whole team fail. -Andres Valloud, squeak list

... -- Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:53:04 -0700 reply
One of the big insights in the last few years, through work by the internet search engines but also tools like Udi Manber's glimpse, is that data with no meaningful structure can still be very powerful if the tools to help you search the data are good. In fact, structure can be bad if the structure you have doesn't fit the problem you're trying to solve today, regardless of how well it fit the problem you were solving yesterday. So I don't much care any more how my data is stored; what matters is how to retrieve the relevant pieces when I need them. --Rob Pike

... --simon, Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:34:10 -0700 reply
The Mudgeeraba Creek Emu Racing and Boomerang Throwing Association. One of its rules read: "The decisions of the judges are final unless shouted down by a really overwhelming majority of the crowd present. Abusive and obscene language may not be used by contestants when addressing memebers of the judging panel or, conversely, by members of the judging panel when addressing contestants (unless struck by a boomerang)."

... --simon, Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:47:54 -0700 reply
Obviously there's a problem when switching from Structured Text to HTML... :(

So switch it back, dog.

... -- Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:05:17 -0700 reply
Be regular and orderly in your life, so that you may be violent and original in your work. --Flaubert

... --simon, Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:48:24 -0700 reply
This is why hackers worry. The government spying on people doesn't literally make programmers write worse code. It just leads eventually to a world in which bad ideas will win. And because this is so important to hackers, they're especially sensitive to it. They can sense totalitarianism approaching from a distance, as animals can sense an approaching thunderstorm. --Paul Graham

Wal*Mart-Fu :D

... --simon, Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:04:13 -0800 reply
To play, to act, is to create at least a possibility of changing the world. There is a tendency to think that what we see in the present moment will continue. We forget how often we have been astonished by the sudden crumbling of institutions, by extraordinary changes in people's thoughts, by unexpected eruptions of rebellion against tyrannies, by the quick collapse of systems of power that seemed invincible. --Howard Zinn

... --simon, Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:41:08 -0800 reply
Lots of people, both here at Sun and out there in rest of the world, like to talk about “blogs-and-wikis” like it’s one word or they’re one thing; I was reviewing the text of an upcoming book about the space today, and it asserted that “Obviously, the two are converging.” Huh? Granted that they’re both about people placing content on the Web for other people, but in their essential nature, it seems like they couldn’t be more different. A wiki is a collaborative construction engine, with refactoring and edit-in-place being the dominant forms of activity, and many equal voices singing in a chorus. A blog is more like a content faucet, a source with one voice, always growing at one end; while updates to existing content are OK, the dominant activity is pouring new text and pictures and whatever in. I suppose you can apply syndication technology to both, but I don’t see that much similarity or convergence. At a deep level, I don’t think blogs are really a new thing in the world; but wikis are. Technorati cosmos --Tim Bray

... --simon, Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:33:45 -0800 reply
Black Box Voting has launched a fraud audit into Florida. Three investigators (Bev Harris, Andy Stephenson, and Kathleen Wynne) are in Florida right now. We will initiate hand counts on selected counties that have not fully complied with our Nov. 2 Freedom of Information request by Monday (Diebold counties) or Tuesday (other counties). ... In fact, snoopy 50-year-old women have proved invaluable in investigating voting machines. --blackboxvoting.org

Support -- Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:13:08 -0800 reply
The makers may make, and the users may use, but the fixers must fix, with but minimal clues.

... --simon, Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:09:35 -0800 reply
In software, paradoxical as it sounds, good craftsmanship means working fast. If you work slowly and meticulously, you merely end up with a very fine implementation of your initial, mistaken idea. Working slowly and meticulously is premature optimization. Better to get a prototype done fast, and see what new ideas it gives you. --Paul Graham

... --simon, Sat, 04 Dec 2004 07:59:52 -0800 reply
For centuries the Japanese have made finer things than we have in the West. When you look at swords they made in 1200, you just can't believe the date on the label is right. Presumably their cars fit together more precisely than ours for the same reason their joinery always has. They're obsessed with making things well. --Paul Graham (stereotype warning)

... -- Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:39:50 -0800 reply
HTTP is a stateless protocol. -- Dieter Maurer

"Of course everyone knows that if you construct your TrashCan? object properly once it is no longer needed Garbage Collection will dispose of it to free up space in the Heap." - norm217

... --simon, Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:14:03 -0800 reply
Snohomish County wants about $2,500 for their records. We also did statewide FOIA requests in all 50 states. Texas gave the records to us for free. Colorado charged $1,900 for 3,500 pages of documents. Michigan wants $125,000 just to look for the records. (All got the exact same request.) --blackboxvoting.org

... -- Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:52:18 -0800 reply
Happy New Year 2005 is not an AnnoyingQuote

... --DeanG, Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:18:45 -0800 reply
"You don't have to sing Happy Birthday to me Dad, I have a card that does it for me." - Evan, 6th birthday

... --simon, Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:17:41 -0800 reply
In general, I would like to add that if the OO people hadn't forgotten what they community knew in the 60s and 70s, you wouldn't contrast functional and object-oriented, and the designers of abstract (or virtual) machines would probably accommodate both more easily. --Matthias Felleisen

... --simon, Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:26 -0800 reply
So, let's get out of that mud: how many chapters of the QuickGuide? do you want me to write before you do your first one? Name your price and I'll do it. --Enrico Zini

"The "problems" with "blogs for work" have been almost identical to the problems with wikis for work." - Coté

... --Simon Michael, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:03:41 -0800 reply
While critically important and moral when performed ethically, commerce is often incapable of producing or sustaining works of enduring value. Can anyone imagine a company proving Fermat's theorem, painting the Sistine Chapel, or discovering relativity? This is no slight to commerce, as these sorts of things are outside the scope of its central purpose, which is to distribute goods and services, and to satisfy the material needs of people, efficiently. Axiom's own history bears this conclusion out. I believe that there is therefore room and need for some extra-commercial force in society to balance and complement the effects of commerce, not to replace it. -- Camm Maguire

... --Simon Michael, Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:26:03 -0800 reply
I can appreciate the intellectual purity of this argument. And i don't doubt that Io is up to the task. However, I've watched Smaltalk and then Squeak self-host for decades with the net result that it has a reputation of not playing well with others.

We can also admire plain tools used with confidence to create something of value. This becomes an open invitation for others to join in and apply their knowledge immediately.

I don't actually have experience building Io so my comments aren't in favor of any one particular position. Rather they are just my observation on how some decisions expand a community and others don't. --Ward Cunningham (on io language's build system)

... --simon, Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:42:31 -0800 reply
Wrong! My distribution of choice is superior in every way to your pathetic distribution of choice. You are the lowest form of loser to think that your worthless distribution could hold a candle to the God-like superiority of my distribution.

My distribution's superiority is clearly demonstrated by it's magnificent out-of-the box handling of my obscure feature of choice. Your pathetic distribution doesn't even support my obscure feature of choice without a course of action so complex that it's madness to even contemplate it.

Clearly, my distribution of choice will utterly destroy your distribution of choice. This is so certain it is pointless for you to resist it. --slashdot

... --Simon Michael, Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:41:58 -0800 reply
The rewriting of the GPL will induce humility in lawyers and, if hackers were capable of humility, it would induce this in them as well, he quipped --eweek.com

old one --Simon Michael, Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:12:57 -0800 reply
So, Black Box Voting compared these with the Nov. 2 signed ones and the "special' ones from Nov. 15 given, unsigned, finding several of the MISSING poll tapes. There they were: In the garbage. So, Wynne went to the car and got the polling place tapes she had pulled from the warehouse garbage. My my my. There were not only discrepancies, but a polling place tape that was signed by six officials. --http://blackboxvoting.org/

... --Simon Michael, Tue, 08 Feb 2005 09:19:35 -0800 reply
Machiavelli, author of The Prince, said it best: "The best fortress that exists is to avoid being hated by the people."

... --Simon Michael, Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:43:08 -0800 reply
Like I said, it’s a pop culture. A commercial hit record for teenagers doesn’t have to have any particular musical merits. I think a lot of the success of various programming languages is expeditious gap-filling. Perl is another example of filling a tiny, short-term need, and then being a real problem in the longer term. Basically, a lot of the problems that computing has had in the last 25 years comes from systems where the designers were trying to fix some short-term thing and didn’t think about whether the idea would scale if it were adopted. There should be a half-life on software so old software just melts away over 10 or 15 years. --A Conversation with Alan Kay

... --simon, Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:09:28 -0800 reply
Once you have something that grows faster than education grows, you’re always going to get a pop culture. It’s well known that I tried to kill Smalltalk in the later ’70s. There were a few years when it was the most wonderful thing in the world. It answered needs in a more compact and beautiful way than anything that had been done before. But time moves on. As we learned more and got more ambitious about what we wanted to do, we realized that there are all kinds of things in Smalltalk that don’t scale the way they should—for instance, the reflection stuff that we had in there. It was one of the first languages to really be able to see itself, but now it is known how to do all levels of reflection much better—so we should implement that. --A Conversation with Alan Kay

... --simon, Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:44:04 -0800 reply

... --simon, Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:57:27 -0800 reply
Unlike traditional TDD, I wouldn't write tests until I felt myself slowing down. (Don't try this until you're good at TDD or you won't know what feeling your missing.) --Ward Cunningham

... --Simon Michael, Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:33:54 -0800 reply
So I said, narrow the focus. Your "use case" should be, there's a 22 year old college student living in the dorms. How will this software get him laid? That got me a look like I had just sprouted a third head, but bear with me, because I think that it's not only crude but insightful. "How will this software get my users laid" should be on the minds of anyone writing social software (and these days, almost all software is social software). "Social software" is about making it easy for people to do other things that make them happy: meeting, communicating, and hooking up. --Jamie Zawinski, "Groupware Bad"

... --Simon Michael, Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:10:32 -0800 reply
Oh as I went home on a monday night..
as drunk as drunk could be
I saw a horse beside the door
where my old horse should be

... --Simon Michael, Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:18:13 -0800 reply
I called my wife and I said to her..
will you kindly tell to me
who owns that horse beside the door
where my old horse should be ?

... --Simon Michael, Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:22:41 -0800 reply
How many more of these goddam elections are we going to have to write off as lame but regrettably necessary holding actions? And how many more of these stinking double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote for something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils? I understand, along with a lot of other people, that the big thing, this year, is Beating Nixon. But that was also the big thing, as I recall, twelve years ago in 1960 - and as far as I can tell, we've gone from bad to worse to rotten since then, and the outlook is for more of the same. --Hunter S. Thompson

... --Simon Michael, Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:36:29 -0800 reply
I do not take drugs. I am drugs. --Salvador Dali

... --simon, Wed, 02 Mar 2005 13:19:23 -0800 reply
Find a central metaphor that's so good that everything aligns to it. Design meetings are no longer necessary, it designs itself. The metaphor should be crisp and fun. --Alan Kay

... --Simon Michael, Sat, 05 Mar 2005 08:52:50 -0800 reply
"There isn't going to be an investigation. We know when it happened," he says. "There was a point when both of them were sitting on the same bench, and that has to have been it." --Twin Mars rovers in instrument mix-up

"There is a VCS named darcs, which is much more flexible, but is specced using quantum physics language and written in a scary language called Haskell." - Autrijus , A Plan for Pugs

... --Simon Michael, Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:45:54 -0800 reply
If you build the simple, inexpensive option, you'll not only find it easier to sell at first, but you'll also be in the best position to conquer the rest of the market. It's very dangerous to let anyone fly under you. If you have the cheapest, easiest product, you'll own the low end. And if you don't, you're in the crosshairs of whoever does. --Paul Graham, How to Start a Startup

Plone Zwiki -- Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:50:07 -0800 reply
How does one permit edit rights for anonymous users?

... --Simon Michael, Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:42:11 -0800 reply
it's possible to be part of a startup and stay in grad school, especially at first. Two of our three original hackers were in grad school the whole time, and both got their degrees . There are few sources of energy so powerful as a procrastinating grad student. --Paul Graham

... --Simon Michael, Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:18:05 -0800 reply
Fourth is the "rule of 3". It takes 1 unit of work to get something for yourself. It takes 3x1 units of work to make is so your office neighbor can use it. It takes 3x3x1 units of work so you can use it "in the department" and in courses. It takes 3x3x3x1 units of work to give it to the world for free without support. It takes 3x3x3x3x1 units of work to make it into a commercial product with support, a hotline, lawyers, etc. Most "computer algebra" systems stop at the 3x1 level as there is no interesting new research work beyond the first unit and the 3x1 units are expended as a matter of trying to get the work out to the world. --Tim Daly, more

... --Simon Michael, Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:08:26 -0800 reply
Axiom is written in boot and common lisp. I wrote most, if not all, of the common lisp. I found the boot syntax (which is basically lisp except that parens are replaced by indentation) was impossible for me to use. However other people on the project hate parens. It was a religious difference that never got solved.

Boot has some nice features. It was basically Python before Python existed. The key flaw in Boot (and Python) is that programs are not data. That is, (print (eval (read "sourcefile"))) is broken. --Tim Daly

... --Simon Michael, Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:21:04 -0800 reply
What's more interesting, IMO, is the effect this has on CMS design. It totally changes your approach to navigation. Instead of thinking very hard about folder structures or topic structures, you just throw everything into a big pile and let stored semi-structured and full-text queries create smaller piles. This allows numerous approaches to site navigation. -- Paul Everitt

... --simon, Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:53:01 -0800 reply
Amazon had a dream. To bring the world a modern-day Library of Alexandria. Apparently they had a second dream. To own the patents on it. slashdot

... --Simon Michael, Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:55:19 -0700 reply
Without an ethically sound way of life our actions weigh heavily on our consciousness and will impede our ability to concentrate. --attributed to the Dalai Lama

... --simon, Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:21:10 -0700 reply
The actual flight itself is such a gift I can well imagine that people will be queuing for sub-orbital flights when they really come onto the market. The sight of the earth from space is breathtaking, and life changing. 3 minutes in space will change your perspective, I guarantee, on the way we treat one another and the world. So imagine ten days in orbit, the first few on the tiny Soyuz, which rotates end-over-end to maintain solar attitude thus giving you the entertaining experience of being both weightless and inside a tumble dryer on slow-motion. Imagine learning to live and work in an environment that is at once dangerous and peaceful. Imagine using a VOIP connection to call your best friends from orbit in between science experiments and time conducting earth observations. It was ten days, but it passed in a blur. --Mark Shuttleworth

The only two-way-web the masses will ever love is email via web browser. Bread and &*#$@! wine... - DeanG

... --simon, Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:17:25 -0700 reply
I'm always telling people about how Python just gets out of your way and lets you focus on the problem, but I didn't even realize that it was unittest that was in my way before. Heck, I just thought unit testing was hard. --Philip Eby

... --simon, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:32:49 -0700 reply
Clearswift has seen a 180% rise in sex-related spam over the course of the last month. "Without casting aspersions, those likely to respond to these kind of adverts will be invariably hoping that one thing leads to another but aside from the fact that these mails are bogus, clicking on any link within a spam mail can lead to a whole host of unwanted problems," said Alyn Hockey, Clearswift's director of research. BBC

... --simon, Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:36:23 -0700 reply
When I explain free software to non-technical people I compare it to a sport. Think of a game, in which the players compete to design the most creative and useful inventions, using software as their medium. The players keep score in terms of "kudos" and the best players - the key people (almost always men) behind winning projects - have a very high status, much like stars in any field. Software is an excellent medium because the costs of entry and of collaboration are so low. It enables a true meritocracy in which teams of any size can join together to attack problems of any size (and share kudos, if they succeed). --slashdot

... --Simon Michael, Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:19:59 -0700 reply
The Game is becoming politically sensitive because it has a side-product, namely a cornucopia of increasingly valuable software. This flood of cheap software has started to revolutionise the world and launched some major proxy wars between established players, threatened by it, and those who understand what's happening and want to profit from it. You can almost slice the IT industry into two halves: those who hate the Game, and those on the side-lines, cheering and throwing roses. The amounts of money involved are huge - despite the free label - and already influencing global politics. --slashdot

... --simon, Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:41:13 -0700 reply
The fundamental learning situation is one in which a person learns by helping someone who really knows what he is doing. --attributed to Christopher Alexander

... --simon, Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:47:05 -0700 reply
in the 1990s, the U.N. started taking a closer look at fertility patterns, and in 2002, it adopted a new theory that shocked many demographers: human population is leveling off rapidly, even precipitously, in developed countries, with the rest of the world soon to follow. Most environmentalists still haven't got the word. Worldwide, birthrates are in free fall. Around one-third of countries now have birthrates below replacement level (2.1 children per woman) and sinking. Nowhere does the downward trend show signs of leveling off. --Stewart Brand

... --simon, Sun, 01 May 2005 17:03:18 -0700 reply
If it is not useful or necessary, free yourself from imagining that you need to make it.

If it is useful and necessary, free yourself from imagining that you need to enhance it by adding what is not an integral part of its usefulness or necessity.

And finally: If it is both useful and necessary and you can recognize and eliminate what is not essential, then go ahead and make it as beautifully as you can.
--Shakers

... --Simon Michael, Thu, 05 May 2005 07:09:04 -0700 reply
Not quite off topic. This is a very real problem, not just for Croquet, but for any architecture that is edge based. Of course, this is where the really interesting new Internet applications are, AND this is exactly what certain governments - and institutions - are attempting to control (you think it is bad now, just wait until ITU is in charge). In essence, this is a direct attack on your ability to communicate what you want in the way you would like to. David's note may be a bit extreme, but consider that this is yet another small step in limiting your ability to interact with your peers through the Internet. In this case, these limits are not being imposed by government fiat as they are in other countries (so far), but by bureaucrats that have the users best interests in mind - as they see it. Another small step toward a closed, dead system. It amounts to the same thing in the end. David is right to be angry that a bastion of the free-speech movement in the 60s and 70s has been so corrupted that this issue is not even given a moment of consideration by "those who make the rules". Nor by those that are affected by it. --David Smith on croquet-user, discussing port-blocking-by-default.

... --Simon Michael, Thu, 12 May 2005 18:36:23 -0700 reply
A bhikkhu taking pleasure in being attentive, and recognising the danger of carelessness, makes progress like a forest fire, consuming all obstacles large or small in his way. 31

How to Read an Algorithms Book

My reasoning was simple, by writing a Haskell compiler in Haskell I will double my language learning speed since I will not only have to learn how to program in it by forcing myself to complete a non-trivial project, but also its subtle semantics and dark corners since I actually needed to implement it correctly. Writing a compiler is also doubly efficient to begin with, since if you self-compile improvements not only give you a better optimizer, but also speed up your self-compiled compiler. All in all I figure I was making very good use of my time. For some reason, when I explain my reasoning to other people they look at me like I am crazy, but I can detect no flaw in my logic.

If someone was to drop a bomb on this building, it would wipe out 50 percent of the Lisp community. That would probably be a good thing. It would allow Lisp to start over. ILC 2005 report

It is an ironic truth that those who seek to create systems which most assume the perfectibility of humans end up building the systems which are most soul destroying and most rigid, systems that rot from within until like great creaking rotten oak trees they collapse on top of themselves leaving a sour smell and decay. We saw it happen in 1989 with the astonishing fall of the USSR. Conversely, those systems which best take into account the complex, frail, brilliance of human nature and build in flexibility, checks and balances, and tolerance tend to survive beyond all hopes. --Adam Bosworth

... --simon, Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:37:26 -0700 reply
The young are great for working 12 hours a day on implementing stuff, but lack the experience to know WHAT to spend that time on. How many IM clients in sourceforge? And they are dirt cheap. The old have the experience to design reliable things that do things people actually want, but lack the energy to work 12 hours a day. So many go home to their "lives". And we need our naps. Solution: older designers, younger workers. Every field other then technology figured this out thousands of years ago. One of these years we'll figure it out too, probably right after AI works and noone needs to write code anymore. --slashdot

... --Simon Michael, Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:41:31 -0700 reply
But I'd say that Zope's scaling problem doesn't just hurt adoption, it really hurts development too. All applications start out as small applications. I could even invoke some hype word (maybe appending a version number) and say that the New Way Of Development involves lots of small interacting applications instead of large apps. Good development in the beginning means deferring choices as much as possible and focusing on results instead of abstractions. Abstractions should emerge from your functional goals, and if you spend a lot of time modeling in the beginning then you've made premature choices and designed code that you don't yet understand. You haven't just wasted time, you've introduced a liability.

features and performance are not the top priorities in Linux, the top priority is maintainability. The rate at which features and performance improvements are added is a consequence of the maintainability, which must not be compromised for the sake of a slightly cool filesystem.

a good fresh quote is vital to a site's health, change it often..

... --simon, Wed, 09 Nov 2005 07:14:58 -0800 reply
Q. Help! I'm still being tortured to death in an American military prison! What should I do? A. Sigh. We've been through this before. You can't be getting tortured to death because we do not torture. --So You're STILL Being Tortured To Death In An American Military Prison!

... --simon, Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:24:29 -0800 reply
This quest for additional revenue has created an untenable cost structure for the industry - one that doesn't serve vendors or their customers. In essence, vendors spend a lot of money to convince customers to buy, and then charge them a lot of money for the license which covers the sales and marketing costs. We're charging the customer just to sell to them. --Larry Augustin

... --Simon Michael, Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:59:14 -0800 reply
Google is Turing's cathedral, awaiting its soul. We hope. In the words of an unusually perceptive friend: "When I was there, just before the IPO, I thought the coziness to be almost overwhelming. Happy Golden Retrievers running in slow motion through water sprinklers on the lawn. People waving and smiling, toys everywhere. I immediately suspected that unimaginable evil was happening somewhere in the dark corners. If the devil would come to earth, what place would be better to hide?" --George Dyson