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Editor: betabug
Time: 2007/09/12 04:29:32 GMT-7
Note: Spam

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From betabug Wed Sep 12 04:29:32 -0700 2007
From: betabug
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:29:32 -0700
Subject: Spam
Message-ID: <20070912042932-0700@zwiki.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070912035357-0700@zwiki.org>

Have you tried setting edits_need_username ? Did it change anything for you there? See for example the LinkSpam page for details.

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page history --Simon Michael, Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:12:59 -0700 reply

Yes, the release process stalled after 0.59 and so that release is unusually far behind the latest darcs repository. Sorry about that.

Plone 3 wiki support --Simon Michael, Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:25:36 -0700 reply

I guess we need to resolve #1322 and then I could talk to limi about rewording this a bit. We want Zwiki running smoothly on latest Plone again, and to remain as a known alternative folk who need a full-blown wiki in plone.

FYI: domain renewal in progress --Simon Michael, Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:16:27 -0700 reply

zwiki.org is expiring and I'm having trouble getting my registrar to accept the payment. In case there is a brief interruption in service, this is to let you know why.

FYI: domain renewal in progress --simon, Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:50:49 -0700 reply

Status update: the domain has expired and some of you may be unable to access the site. I haven't yet found a way to get joker.com to accept payment or respond to support requests, thanks for your patience while this is resolved. As a workaround you can

FYI: domain renewal in progress --simon, Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:19:19 -0700 reply

zwiki.org is live again, thanks to betabug!

"we have normality, I repeat we have normality.” She turned her microphone off – then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: ”Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem. Please relax. You will be sent for soon.”

Recommendations for a reliable, responsive us-based registrar with clean/efficient ui welcome!

zwiki.org front page --simon, Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:09:55 -0700 reply

As I often do, I am glancing at the zwiki.org FrontPage? and thinking one of (too much info|too much clicking|older versions were nicer|etc.). Time for a quick poll!

Considering both yourself and newcomers to zwiki.org, would you rather see a much lighter, less intimidating front page, with most of the content moved off to subpages ?

Or, do you prefer to have all the essential content gathered on one page, including the wiki topic outline (Documentation box), recent pages, etc. ?

zwiki.org front page --simon, Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:49:49 -0700 reply

Updated!

FYI: domain renewal in progress --FrankLaurijssens?, Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:57:48 -0700 reply

Until now, I've used godaddy for my .com/org/net domains. They don't have the best UI in the world but it works for me. I'm sure there's reasons not to use their services, but I can't come up with one at the moment.

updates --simon, Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:39:58 -0700 reply

A few more wiki updates.. I've been clarifying prose and converting pages to RST here and there. http://zwiki.org/Mail#receiving-mail-from-a-zwiki has a new table summarising subscription behaviour. Also FrontPage? has a limited-width layout which I hope works well enough in most browsers and window sizes - I'm interested in problem reports (especially screenshots). That was inspired by the Easy-2-Read page (see link at the bottom) which I think is right on.

release plans, zwiki in plone --simon, Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:26:10 -0700 reply

G'day all!

I'd like to break the dry spell and do a Zwiki release soon (Sep 1 ?). This is mainly driven by the need to get Plone 3 support out there (http://zwiki.org/1322). There are a bunch of other things overdue for release too, like persistent page history (http://zwiki.org/47). I had intended to have the all-unicode implementation (http://zwiki.org/1345) in this release, but it's not ready.

The Plone 3 support, especially, needs more love: testing, polishing, thinking about integration issues. As of now it's very basic and barely functional. The more hands involved, the better it will be. Plone 3 is good, and it's worth integrating with it well. NB Plone has incorporated some more wiki functionality in this release (Wicked's (( )) links), but I think Zwiki in Plone is still a valuable option. Zwiki and Wicked fit different needs.

Go go go ;) --FrankLaurijssens?, Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:16:38 -0700 reply

It's been quiet here for a long time, it's good to see you're back. I've had a busy time as well, but I'll get some breathing space soon.

Go go go ;) --Simon Michael, Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:35:00 -0700 reply

Thanks Frank, welcome back also. Something I noticed while cleaning up DarcsRepos?: you have a "Plone 3 compatibility" patch in your repo which you should be able to unpull now, I think it has been superseded.

Go go go ;) --FrankLaurijssens?, Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:03:00 -0700 reply

Fixed, thanks for the hint. Actally, I was quite surprised it kept running for all this time, because I haven't exactly maintaining the server that well lately. I also added the Unicode branch for now, just to check if I still understood what I did last time.

preserving line breaks, formatting quoted messages on rst pages --Simon Michael, Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:08:31 -0700 reply

FYI, something I discovered recently: in restructured text you can preserve line breaks by prefixing each line of a paragraph with | and a space.

This comes in handy for formatting quoted messages. Zwiki is supposed to recognize message text lines beginning with > and format them with the html blockquote tag, but at least on rst pages this isn't working at all.

On http://zwiki.org/OldLatexWikiDiscussion just now, I prepended the quoted lines (and the preceding So-and-so wrote: line) with |. Now at least the quoted excerpts are readable. We should investigate this a little more and make sure rst and other page types format quoted excerpts properly.

two more notes --simon, Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:13:23 -0700 reply

Interesting: I just saw the chinese translation of the navigation links, on FrontPage? only, until I did shift-refresh. Presumably this is because I reinstalled PloneAndCMF? (and PTS), FrontPage? is ramcached, a chinese user passed by recently, and the translated version got cached. Something to be aware of! Just shift-reload if FrontPage? ever seems stale.

And: zwiki.org is poised on a knife edge, with 1354 ordinary pages and 1354 issue pages. Looks like quite soon the IssueTracker? will be the bigger part of this wiki.

ZWiki? 0.60rc1 released --simon, Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:27:58 -0700 reply

Since I'll be away on a roadtrip over the 1st, I have published a release candidate. Now is a great time to install it widely, test, report problems in the IssueTracker?, send patches to DarcsRepos?, clarify CHANGES, and update translations. The final release will go out next week.

The US celebrates Labour Day on the wrong date, but never mind: Happy Labour Day Weekend all you workers!

Zwiki pages do not appear in Plone's navigation portlet --sfoster, Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:32:55 -0700 reply

Hello Simon,

Apologies for not getting back - I've not had a chance to look at it again either, so no change here. We're about to upgrade to v3, so this one may "go away" but if you do find anything, please let me know.

Cheers,

Steven

ZWiki? 0.60rc1 released --betabug, Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:15:51 -0700 reply

Great! Woohoo for 0.60 coming! Hopefully I will have some time to test over the weekend.

Plone/Wicked, Zwiki comparison --simon, Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:23:01 -0700 reply

FYI, I've updated http://zwiki.org/PloneAndCMF#zwiki-and-wicked.

darcs doc update --simon, Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:17:38 -0700 reply

New/updated:

how do ZWiki? home page --NeilMcEvoy?, Sat, 08 Sep 2007 05:43:57 -0700 reply

I love the zwiki.org home page style. is there a quick how to on how it's done? I've looked around the site, but can't find how to do stuff like the nice coloured boxes, the centred text etc. Thanks!

how do ZWiki? home page --Simon Michael, Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:59:39 -0700 reply

Hey Neil, welcome. It's just hand-tweaked html (FrontPage? uses structured text + html instead of restructured text). See it via the edit link, external edit link, or by appending /src to the url.

Plone integration --NeilMcEvoy?, Sun, 09 Sep 2007 05:58:37 -0700 reply

My main goal is plone integration, and I see there's a lot of info to read. A quick question: ZWiki? Folders allows me to select membership controls, such as 'role to add wiki pages' = 'expert' etc. Will these be site-wide, or will they fit in with how I'm trying to use mxmWorkgroups, which is limit the role to that group, ie a group wiki can only be edited by an expert for that group, or will it mean any expert can edit any wiki?

many thanks! Neil.

Spam --flemmingbjerke, Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:53:57 -0700 reply

It is necessary to pay more attention to spam. Even zwiki.org has had spam problems:

http://zwiki.org/1279IssuetrackerSpamIsStillAProblemCloseHolesAndRepairIssuesOnZwikiOrgElsewhere

We need to have open zwiki where whoever wants to comment, can comment. But, we cannot do that due to spammers. I have tried to apply plonecaptcha, but I haven't succeeded in having zwiki to validate captcha. I think zwiki should have default opportunity where anonymous user must use captcha.

Spam --betabug, Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:29:32 -0700 reply

Have you tried setting edits_need_username ? Did it change anything for you there? See for example the LinkSpam? page for details.