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Plone Add Item "Wiki Page" Doesn't work --Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:24:41 -0700 reply

I was using ZWiki 0-32-0 and it was working fine until I upgraded from Plone 2.0final to Plone 2.0.5. Now for some reason I can't add Wiki Pages from Plone anymore. When I add one it shows a new page but the page is empty and when I go to folder_contents it's not there anymore. I can still add wiki pages from the ZMI though. I tried upgrading to the latest ZWiki, 0-43-0 and I still get the same problem. Have you seen this problem before? Any idea how to fix it?

**Subscribe to a Section ** --DeanG, Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:45:25 -0700 reply

http://www.bit-man.com.ar/en/software/ZWiki_sections ... via http://del.icio.us/tag/zwiki

Plone Add Item "Wiki Page" Doesn't work --Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:18:13 -0700 reply

I worked out the problem. For some reason in portal_factory Wiki Page was set as one of the Factory Types, I just unchecked it and now they add properly again.

the demise of full/simple/minimal --simon, Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:07:38 -0700 reply

Full, simple, minimal modes have been an old favourite of mine since the beginnings of Zwiki. I think I'm ready to let them go now (sniff).

Minimal mode was basically for (a) enticing WikiWikiWeb users who might otherwise turn their nose up at new-fangled Zwiki's featuritis; and (b) allowing people like me who had a slow pc or connection, or who preferred speed and content over branding, to coexist with site maintainers who felt differently. It made me more productive on zope.org, client wikis, the ubuntu wiki, etc. It's still useful to be able to toggle the plone and standard skins I think.

At http://zopewiki.org I found that full mode without the next/previous/up links seems about the best default for most people. I want them to see the page parents and the page management form without having to turn them on first. I've removed the display modes from that site now, check it out. I think this will be a better default skin, especially when a few more refinements are added (http://timmorgan.org/wiki -style parents, and collapsible comment & page management forms), and also a more easily customizable skin.

What do you all think ? Maybe this should have happened a long time ago ?

**Subscribe to a Section ** --simon, Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:21:54 -0700 reply

Dean, thanks - interesting!

**Subscribe to a Section ** --simon, Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:26:49 -0700 reply

PS that delicious thing is pretty nifty. Who set that up ?

the demise of full/simple/minimal --DeanG, Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:42:59 -0700 reply

Welcome back!

A clean UI with exposed features in a clean, formal mode has got my vote. I hate adding "click full" to my notes to folks checking out zwiki. MediaWiki? seems to have won hearts this way--they don't have many features that aren't available in most wikis, but they're prsesented in a formal way. (Backlinks/Categories, in particular)

+1 on more customizability. +1 Collapsible sections. Hover for "summary" of collapsed sections would be a nice touch.

Not sure who was the first to post a zwiki tagged link to del.icio.us. Folksomonomies rock, and I'd sure love to be able to add 'tags' to zwiki pages...and of course search and sort by them. ;-) Somewhere I had a post looking to start a dev. discussion regarding that. Seemed like it was either a case where a zope based wiki would either excel or stumble (er, objects vs. relational db).

[newbie]? Is there a way to disable WikiName? --Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:41:40 -0700 reply

I'm trying to use a Plone Zwiki for communication among a department of Smalltalk programmers. We end up creating many unwanted links because most Smalltalk class names qualify as WikiName. For us, it'd be better if we only had the explicit square bracket links. I've searched through a bunch of docs and sites, but haven't come up with a way to disable the WikiName feature of Zwiki. Is there a way?

Thanks,

-Martin McClure?

back --simon, Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:48:23 -0700 reply

Oh yes.. I'm back. I'd better tell the world over on my blog, I suppose.

For the record, I see the wiki-mail gremlin is biting. Gmane saw all the above comments but I received only two of them, and one I emailed hasn't appeared on the page; perhaps it's just me, no doubt they will appear as soon as I re-send.

Re wikinames - hi Martin, have a look in the Admin Guide on zwiki.org (configuring chapter), or the QuickReference. Let me know if it's not easy to find.

back -- Re wikinames --Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:27:03 -0700 reply

Thanks, Simon! It's in the QuickReference all right -- I'd looked there, but it must have been before I figured out that WikiName was a more commonly-used term than WikiWord?. -Martin

new API docs --simon, Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:43:06 -0700 reply

I had some success making API docs with Doxygen last night, try the link at DeveloperNotes.

the demise of full/simple/minimal --JózsefJároli, Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:44:01 -0700 reply

One more vote to full mode (I have hardcoded it a while ago at my page...). Although my biggest problem with (even the full mode) zwiki skin that it is not self explanatory enough for users who aren't familiar with modern webpages. Many users have no clue what comments are for, therefore I had to explain a bit more about it on my site (see: http://webni.innen.hu/Hozz_c3_a1sz_c3_b3l_c3_a1sok ). Also I am not sure about how many users could figure out the backlins functionality for instance.

http://timmorgan.org has a cool skin. in fact I have recently visited this site a few times (Note: I am also a TiddlyWiki fan :) and I haven't even realised, that 1) this is a wiki, 2) it runs ZWiki :)