**ZWiki 0.57.0 with Plone 2.5.1, ** --ttoba, Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:11:45 -0800 reply

Hi, As I am new to Plone and ZWiki, I have trouble with adding ZWiki product on Plone. After copyed ZWiki folder to C:Program FilesPlone? 2DataProducts and restart Plone I could not find ZWiki on ADD-LIST but insted, "cannot import name _addDTMLMethod" messages.

My environment is Win2000 and Plone 2.5.1, CMF-1.6.2, Zope (Zope 2.9.5-final, python 2.4.3, win32), Five 1.3.7, Python 2.4.3 (#69, Mar 29 2006, 17:35:34) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]?, PIL 1.1.5

I have COREBlog2? 0.9b installed successfully.

Zwiki 0.58 released --Simon Michael, Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:18:36 -0800 reply

Zwiki 0.58 has been released:

Simpler skin customization, bugfixes, cleanups.

Upgrade notes
If you have a very old zwiki relying on standard_wiki_header & standard_wiki_footer dtml methods, these will now be ignored; you must use a wikipage page template to customise the skin. I don't think this will affect anyone (let me know if it did!)
  • remove bad import from CMFInit? breaking CMF/Plone installation (#1291, #1295)
  • /upgradeAll now sets up a catalog and tries to fix some common character encoding problems
  • accept zodb skin templates with .pt or .dtml suffixes too, for easy upload
  • when adding a wiki, keep image and file suffixes
  • when adding a wiki, set the stylesheet's content type to text/css
  • code cleanup, drop standard_wiki_header/standard_wiki_footer support
  • add use_issue_links boolean property
  • help page cleanups, link UsersGuide
  • clarify username option help
  • fix subtopics layout interference from unterminated stx lists & literal blocks (#625)
  • improve contents page styling, make it like subtopics (but bigger)
  • fix star image in message-board-style subtopics template (#1305)
  • fix editform helppage link
  • clarify page type names, change "type" to "markup"
Issue tracking
  • set a "medium" severity when mailing in a new issue (kludgy, just picks the middle list element)
  • use a more stable contents url to reduce bot traffic (#762, #699) (Simon Michael, Daniel Yount, Michael Haubenwallner, Sascha Welter)
  • handle unrecognised page types properly
  • numericVotes method to get votes without voter identities
  • merge Wikis.py into __init__ and Admin

Zwiki 0.58 released --John Maxwell, Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:40:30 -0800 reply

On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Simon Michael wrote:

> I don't think this will affect anyone (let me know if it did!)

Re: standard_wiki_header... yes, thinkubator (http:// thinkubator.ccsp.sfu.ca) uses these, as I figured this would be the straightforwardest (to my way of thinking, at least) way to merge wiki content and non-wiki content in a unified design.

Since you asked,

ZWiki 0.57.0 with Plone 2.5.1, --Simon Michael, Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:31:21 -0800 reply

Sorry, that was a bug in 0.57. 0.58 should work for you.

Zwiki 0.58 released --Simon Michael, Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:34:59 -0800 reply

Aha, thanks John. Maybe that support should come back in 0.59, or maybe I can point people to a wikipage template that pulls in the dtml.

How's Thinkubator going ? Looks like steady activity there.

Zwiki 0.58 released --John Maxwell, Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:02:41 -0800 reply

On Nov 2, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Simon Michael wrote:

> Aha, thanks John. Maybe that support should come back in 0.59, or > maybe > I can point people to a wikipage template that pulls in the dtml.

The latter would work. I'm still quite happy with dtml, for the simple reason that it allows building up interfaces out of simple building blocks -- loads of indirection, and the opportunities that presents.

> How's Thinkubator going ? Looks like steady activity there.

It's picked up again this fall. I'm quite pleased, since we've done next to no publicity for it. It has that nice quality that projects sometimes achieve -- where they just work, and require almost no maintenance. Thanks for your part in that!

Zwiki 0.58 released --Simon Michael, Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:30:47 -0800 reply

> It's picked up again this fall. I'm quite pleased, since we've done > next to no publicity for it. It has that nice quality that projects > sometimes achieve -- where they just work, and require almost no > maintenance. Thanks for your part in that!

Excellent! That's where we want to be.

latexwiki setup --nd51, Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:54:27 -0800 reply

To answer your question of a week ago (sorry. ;-) ) whether latexwiki set up works better if you do add zwiki -> latexwiki , I don't get that option in Plone, just add ZWiki, and then the option to save the page at latex. This might be because I've got some old zwiki plone skins floating around, perhaps....

More on vandalism --EmmaLaurijssens, Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:33:51 -0800 reply

I just updated issue #141 (!) from 'normal' to 'serious'. For some time already I was wondering why I was getting mail-outs for the FrontPage because of someone called "stigmata" removing links from the front page, which I didn't notice being created in the first place. How could this guy know about these inadvertent edits while I didn't, I'm a whole-wiki subscriber after all.

Then I decided to look in the ZMI, I don't have manage acces just for the fun of having it, have I? There I saw that the html files which were mentioned in the removed links really do exist.

What is happening? It looks like zwiki.org, and probably other wikis as well, is being used for Spamdexing (WikiPedia:Spamdexing). It's sad that a search for c-ialis on Google for zwiki.org (http://www.google.com/search?q=cialis+site%3Azwiki.org) returns 86 results.

So, to start somewhere, I deleted almost all of the pages ending in .htm and .html from zwiki.org. Perhaps we even need to make it impossible to upload HTML files, but let's not overreact :)

More on vandalism --EmmaLaurijssens, Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:11:02 -0800 reply

As a side effect, all pages made by mainly Turkish "hackers" thinking they have hacked zwiki.org have been removed as well. What were they thinking?

More on vandalism --Simon Michael, Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:31:07 -0800 reply

Great, Frank. I really appreciate the fine work by yourself, d2m and others not only to keep the wiki(s) clean, but to investigate and report on the situation as well.

I knew that bogus files were uploaded fairly often, but assumed that as long as they weren't linked anywhere on the wiki they were harmless. I guess that was wrong ?

Until we get uploads sending mail, I'd be in favour of removing file upload permission on zwiki.org - why not, we don't really need it. Except for demonstration purposes.. also I guess whatever the policy is, it should be applied to all the hosted wikis now, not just zwiki.org.

More on vandalism --EmmaLaurijssens, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:51:12 -0800 reply

Indeed, they aren't harmless at all. The following Google search lists a couple of fake message boards/blogs/whatever, which contain links to these pages: http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3Azwiki.org+viagra . Ah well, those are dead links now.

Uploading files could be useful, but it's not very useful if you can't modify, list or delete the uploaded files. IMHO if you need file uploading capabilities, you need to implement some kind of content management system. There are other Zope products that implement this. OTOH, embedding images is quite useful in many cases. Could this be a reason for rethinking the folderish wiki page concept?

More on vandalism --d2m, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:02:54 -0800 reply

You'll get a bit better results on searching for site:zwiki.org instead (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Azwiki.org+viagra)

More on vandalism --EmmaLaurijssens, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:20:25 -0800 reply

And while we're discussing this, someone created BingoHtml under SandBox. Why bother doing this under SandBox? Or do they know that much (but not enough, apparently)about Zwiki that they know that SandBox pages have the IsBoring property set and thus are exempt from most mailouts?

More on vandalism --EmmaLaurijssens, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:44:57 -0800 reply

Ahem. Our 'script heroes' appear to be monitoring the pages. Everytime I delete bingo.html or index.html it gets recreated, so I decided to keep them in place and remove the contents instead. This appears to be working for a while.

BTW, it looks like the surname of 'stigmata' is Terentyev. The Zope document title is C:Documents and SettingsterentyevРабочий столbingo.html.

More on vandalism --Simon Michael, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:38:09 -0800 reply

Ah yes.. uploading images is handy (and occasionally abused of course). We do need upload notifications. That's easy to add I'd guess.

How soon does bingo.html get reuploaded.. is it a bot checking hourly or something ?

Can you just remove upload permission on the folder for now - *Add Documents, Images, and Files *

More on vandalism --frank, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:07:02 -0800 reply

Permission removed.

More on vandalism --frank, Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:01:10 -0800 reply

I seriously doubt that this is bot activity. The monitoring of the html files may have been automated, but since the upload permission was removed, we have only seen these vandals replacing FrontPage with their spam, which actually is different every time. It looks like they haven't got anything better to do :(

WYSIWYG (GUI Editor) --Win Myint Aung, Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:41:06 -0800 reply

I would like to know the ways to join a GUI editor (such as FCKeditor? or Epoz) in Zwiki. Anyone tried before? Please let me know how to do it.

WYSIWYG (GUI Editor) --EmmaLaurijssens, Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:02:44 -0800 reply

ZWiki supports Epoz out of the box. Unfortunately, due to a recent attack by a spamdexer, we had to remove file upload permissions, which apparently broke Epoz on zwiki.org.

WYSIWYG (GUI Editor) --Win Myint Aung, Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:43:04 -0800 reply

Thank you, I tested Epoz for Zwiki. But I want to know coding for how Zwiki control plone.

WYWSIWYG - Win Myint Aung --nd51, Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:03:52 -0800 reply

Hello. You can get Epoz 2.0.2 from http://iungo.org/products/Epoz/ . Unpack it into your Zope products directory. Restart Zope. Do NOT install it in Plone because for everything else except ZWiki pages you still with Kupu. Zope will find Epoz anyway. Now edit a ZWiki page. Change it to html. You may need to save and edit again. You'll see the Epoz WYSIWYG editor appear.

z --ostreiter, Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:17:58 -0800 reply

Hello. I, newcomer, installed zope3 (last release). Everything worked. Than I downloaded zwiki (ZopeX3?-3.0), registered the package and run ./runzope. There are some warning of the type "DeprecationWarning?: The 'modulealias' directive has been deprecated and will be removed in Zope 3.5. Manipulate sys.modules manually instead." or "WARNING ZODB.FileStorage? Ignoring index for /home/..../zope/var/Data.fs". Within ZMI I can assign the rights to reading/editing/deleting a wiki, but I have no button to ADD ad Wiki. Does this mean that the installation failed and if so why, or is there another trick to get the wiki started? I am thankful for any help.

re: z --d2m, Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:38:07 -0800 reply

zwiki for zope3 is a distinct wiki implementation developed and maintained for zope3 only (that is, you cannot use zope2 zwiki documentation but instead read the sources). anyway, if you installed zwiki for zope3 correct (http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/zwiki/trunk/INSTALL.txt) you'll see an entry 'Wiki' in the left column in ZMI; select it to create a new wiki...

WYSIWYG (GUI Editor) --d2m, Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:41:09 -0800 reply

i've created a small 'howto use zwiki together with tinymce wysiwyg editor' at http://blog.d2m.at/2006/11/19/zope-and-rich-text-editors/

Zwiki release process --Simon Michael, Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:57:29 -0800 reply

Dear Zopistas and Zwiki fans,

There will be no Zwiki release today; I haven't had time to work on the project. I apologise for being less active lately.

I expect to put some more energy into it soon, but in the meantime if anyone wants to step up and take on some project/release management responsibility, to get things moving faster, that could be very useful. Please contact me if you're interested! Otherwise I will probably change the release schedule and process a bit to suit my current work/personal situation.

Best wishes to all -Simon

Zwiki release process --EmmaLaurijssens, Sun, 03 Dec 2006 13:46:52 -0800 reply

Hmmm... I'd like to help you out but I'm afraid I'm in a similar situation. I haven't really been able to do some work on the other things I wanted to, like [LatexWiki on Windows]? or weeding out the IssueTracker. I'll stick to the occasional cleaning and sanitizing of zwiki.org :)

Page contents --Ben, Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:51:08 -0800 reply

Hi all. I want my wiki pages to display the page contents. I want it to automatically show anything on the page that's rendered as a title or subtitle. Have a look in wikipedia to see what I mean. Is this possible in zwiki?

Page contents --EmmaLaurijssens, Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:13:53 -0800 reply

At the moment, no, I'm afraid. It could be a useful feature for large pages, I'd say.

Hmmm. The PurpleNumbers functionality bears some similarities though. Perhaps the PurpleNumbers code is reusable for this?

  1. only tag headings and first level subheadings
  2. Don't show the tags/numbers
  3. Generate a TOC at the beginning of the document
  4. It is not necessary to keep the numbers unique throughout the wiki

Re: Page contents --Ben, Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:18:43 -0800 reply

I found a page in zwiki that did more or less what I wanted, and editied it to see how it did it. If you add .. contents::in the page, it will create a table of contents based on titles and subtitles. So that's good.

Re: Page contents --Bill Page, Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:26:35 -0800 reply

Why not use RetructuredText?? That way it is possible to specify that the page include a table of contents (as well as a few other special effects).

reST markup javascript editor --DeanG, Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:28:09 -0800 reply

The Page contents thread solution for the MediaWiki? feature being reStructuredText only reminded me...

I like the MediaWiki? non-WYSIWYG editor as it has the toolbar to add markup and thus support plain-text, while teaching and assisting the basic markup rules. reST is not very forgiving on markup, and something like this for reEST would be a nice addition to reST pages. Does such a thing exist?

Re: Page contents --Ben, Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:33:37 -0800 reply

I am using rst. Can someone point me to where I can find out how to make every page contain a TOC? Thanks.

Allowed markups --Ben, Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:31:00 -0800 reply

Is there any way of only allowing reST to be used? This is on a Plone site, so ideally I want the other options removed from the markup dropdown box.

Allowed markups --EmmaLaurijssens, Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:49:53 -0800 reply

See HowToLimitAvailablePageTypes. :)

Allowed markups --EmmaLaurijssens, Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:52:08 -0800 reply

Also, QuickReference contains a lot of other useful things, you might check there as well for other things you might like but haven't thought of yet.

Re: Allowed markups --Ben, Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:28:56 -0800 reply

That's great. HowToLimitAvailablePageTypes works. Shame you can't apply it site wide, as some wiki pages will show up in different places on my site (meeting agendas for example).

Allowed markups sitewide --nd51, Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:10:43 -0800 reply

Ben - if you follow the HowToLimitAvailablePageTypes but set the property on the root of the Plone site, that will apply site wide. Enjoy :-)

merry christmas/hannukah/kwaanza/holidays to all --Simon Michael, Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:05:24 -0800 reply

Best wishes for a peaceful 2007.

John M Riley/AMER/UIC is on vacation --riley, Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:58:16 -0800 reply

I will be out of the office starting 12/21/2006 and will not return until 01/02/2007.

I will respond to your message when I return.

ZWikiFolder By Ingeniweb alpha release --michael, Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:45:19 -0800 reply

ZWikiFolder is a container for ZWiki Page content. It provides a nice Plone/AT interface that changes the properties the ZWiki Pages expect from their container.

ZWikiFolder, hello --Simon Michael, Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:13:35 -0800 reply

(re ZWikiFolder plone add-on:) Super! I look forward to using it.

There will be no immediate Zwiki release on the 1st, once again. I want to move the project into a more radically open/democratic state. I've heard wikipedia sysadmin is done by volunteers showing up randomly. Let me know if you have any suggestions for this. (And incidentally, look at them effortlessly raising a million bucks, GO WP!).

I'm going away for a well-earned week-end of rest and reflection. Thanks all zwikizens for your support and participation during 2006. May your 2007 be a PAGEANT OF DELIGHT!