Discussion of WikiLinkingIssues.

SimonMichael, 2002/12/12 07:17 GMT (via web):
Great page Florian. A sort of LinkIssuesRoadmap?, perhaps.

Or LinkingRoadmap?, even.

FlorianKonnertz, 2002/12/12 14:56 GMT (via web):
Thanks, Simon :-) Do you want to rename it?

SimonMichael, 2002/12/12 16:19 GMT (via web):
If you also think it's a good idea, then yes I think we should. I like the Roadmap name because that's exactly what this page is (see RoadMaps) and then it will get listed there and on ZwikiDocumentation.

SimonMichael, 2002/12/12 16:27 GMT (via web):
On the other hand I don't want to get obsessed with making names uniform. Eg Pieter's ValidHTML is a bit like this page, but I don't think we want to call it ValidHTMLRoadmap. See what you think.

FlorianKonnertz, 2002/12/13 10:37 GMT (via web):
Hi Simon, I want to extend this page and go into detail when i get deeper knowledge about links etc. - It might become a quite detailed RoadMap? ;-) - Let's keep the name until we see how it develops, ok?! - cu,FloK

Simon Michael, 2002/12/13 14:38 GMT (via mail):
Sounds good Florian.. feel free to clean off this discussion if you like.

PieterB, 2003/01/08 09:29 GMT (via web):
I see some other wiki's using [[ wikipage title [[ convention. That might simply things...

FlorianKonnertz, 2003/01/20 06:51 GMT (via web):
Have you ever thought about a radically changed linking concept: All words are rendered as links, if a page with that name exist. No square brackets needed for "normal" words, only for pages with two or more words. To avoid linking use "!" as usual. - I'd like to create a kind of SemanticWeb? for scientific topics, a sort of WikiPedia for special topics. - I'm not quite sure for which other applications and topics this would make sense, but i guess for a highly specificated topic with many special expressions and notations (scientific) this would be great. - Programmers: Isn't it just about simplifying the existing code?

SimonMichael, 2003/01/21 03:31 GMT (via web):
That's EveryThing2. I imagine it's harder to get good performance when you don't rely on some patterns for recognizing links. Also that the cognitive burden on users is different. I expect they've discussed this pretty thoroughly over there.

FlorianKonnertz, 2003/01/23 15:15 GMT (via web):

I see... haven't thought about this. - I'm not familiar with the rendering yet (but will be pretty soon, hehehe :-) but you could explain just the following to me, please: It's currently a realtime rendering checking first for CamelCase and SquareBrackets? and then if the page exists, right? And to realise the NoPatternLinking? we would need a complete LinkDatabase as a WordIndex?, i guess?! - Is there already a wiki which does this? I think this is more or less like these visionary HyperText? sytems (Xanadu etc.), isn't it? Such a thing wouldn't be called wiki anymore (whine)

FlorianKonnertz, 2003/02/01 16:54 GMT (via web):
temporary stop of Acquisition link syntax

From NooWiki:IssueNo0067 :

Allow temporary stop of Acquisition in SubWiki-s for creation of pages with same name

DeanG, 2003/01/31 02:57 CET (via web):
Do you think this should be a special link syntax, or extra? I a page in a Parent wiki would be ../ThatPage, but if you clicked on ../ an editform to create it in the current wiki would be created? of ThatPage_ where the _ was similar link? (I personally like "_ThatPage")

FlorianKonnertz, 2003/02/01 17:56 CET (via web):
I like _ThatPage? too. But in general for link rendering different colors would also be nice. For non-existing pages this would have the advantage that one could cut&paste text without the disturbing question marks (or ../ ) .

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SimonMichael, 2003/02/01 17:27 GMT (via web):
temporary stop of Acquisition link syntax

To work around this, enter the url manually: .../editform?page=newname

change wiki name style --2003/03/20 23:03 GMT
i would like to set up a wiki with a different linking scheme.

Is there any help or documentation, which parts of the source are relevant to my issue?

Of course, i can "read the fucking source", but i am new to zope and any help will be appreciated!

just to let the world know what i like to do :-)

this has as consequences:

Yes, i know, this is not compatible, but this will please (my) users.

comments? help?

change wiki name style --Simon Michael, 2003/03/22 00:40 GMT

> this has as consequences:
> - wiki name and WikI NAmE link to the same page
> - the upper/lowercase of the page title depends on the wikilink that created
> that page

That's how it works right now..

> - the url of Wiki Name is zwiki.org/wiki_name

..but the url will be WikiName. So, WikiName, (and in brackets:) Wiki Name, wikiname, "WIKI NAME"... can all be used.

If you really want to change the urls/page ids, look at the canonicalIdFrom method. Also Regexps.py for info about international characters. And use the latest cvs code. Good luck.

rendering of diff. link types --FlorianKonnertz, 2003/06/10 08:12 GMT
I really want asap the rendering checking for different LinkTypes? and displaying them in different stylesheets. I added some possible types on WikiLinkingIssues page. Realisation with [CSS]? is probably the best and most common way. - I hope to add more here soon (when i migrated my site to Plone).

rendering of diff. link types --DeanGoodmanson, 2003/06/10 14:29 GMT
Types need to be defined. Class names need to get assigned. Then we can integrate into the code.


WikiLinkingIdeas -- Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:19:08 -0700 reply
gotta get this "on paper"...